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03-11-2008, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lain
They should have cut the sinking house scene though. The less of the unbelievable the better.
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That scene alone totaly destroys it for me. Nothing more than an insult to ones inteligence. The rest of the film is ok, but it'll never be the Bourne Idenity.
I think Craig is ok, he aint the problem.
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03-11-2008, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lain
I think it's the different style thats put people off and Daniel Craig. Although I've tried not to spoil the film by watching the trailers I've heard a lot of criticism that he's too short and looks too craggy.
In my view to be believable he has to look cold calculating and as though he ventures outside for longer than to retrieve the paper.
First time i watched casino royal i wasn't convinced. Too used to over the top can't ever get shot bond antics and it stepped too far out of the bond comfort zone. After a few months i watched it again, it's a really good film.
They should have cut the sinking house scene though. The less of the unbelievable the better.
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Just been to see the Bond Film and loved it to bits. Don't know what the problemn with you all is. Three strong story lines running all the time, Craig looks and acts mean and hard, kills without compunction if he has to, out for vengance and that is his main aim but still remains loyal to GB. Bits of Bourne here and there but that was to be expected with the stunt co-ordinator of Bourne being on the action and the fight scenes where pure Bourne but so what. he were great.
Bond gets the job done, kills the villians and moves on as he needs to.
Craig is a gritty modern day Bond and I think he plays it very well indeed. I think Connery would be proud of this one.
I'm just going to have to go and see it again.
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03-11-2008, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OldMan
Just been to see the Bond Film and loved it to bits. Don't know what the problemn with you all is. Three strong story lines running all the time, Craig looks and acts mean and hard, kills without compunction if he has to, out for vengance and that is his main aim but still remains loyal to GB. Bits of Bourne here and there but that was to be expected with the stunt co-ordinator of Bourne being on the action and the fight scenes where pure Bourne but so what. he were great.
Bond gets the job done, kills the villians and moves on as he needs to.
Craig is a gritty modern day Bond and I think he plays it very well indeed. I think Connery would be proud of this one.
I'm just going to have to go and see it again.
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OK that's it!, I'm now starting to seriously doubt your judgement, commitment to perfection and ability!
We need to find a new messiah to lead us out of the dark ages of powerboating, ML event director/race saviour, RIP.
 
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04-11-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
OK that's it!, I'm now starting to seriously doubt your judgement, commitment to perfection and ability!
We need to find a new messiah to lead us out of the dark ages of powerboating, ML event director/race saviour, RIP.
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Carefull JF, I have your air ticket to Como in my hand! Anyway, what do you youngsters know, I was there when the first James Bond film came out and the 2nd and the 3rd and I have read the books etc etc. 
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04-11-2008, 08:35 AM
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Carefull JF, Anyway, what do you youngsters know, ...
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'Youngster' Kinnell!! I don't get called that very often these days!..Flattery wins. You're forgiven pops. 
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06-11-2008, 04:38 PM
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It was dreadful - I agree with Jon, Craig isn't the problem. They took everything that was "Bond" and removed it!
Oh yes and then super bad criminal was guilty of stealing ................ Water!
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06-11-2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookee
It was dreadful - I agree with Jon, Craig isn't the problem. They took everything that was "Bond" and removed it!
Oh yes and then super bad criminal was guilty of stealing ................ Water!
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 you hit the nail on the head cookee!!! Bond was all about the girls, toys, action, cars and even the bond whit!!!!! it has all been removed and now not even worth a watch!!!!! rather watch pant dry on a wall outside when its raining!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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06-11-2008, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearny
you hit the nail on the head cookee!!! Bond was all about the girls, toys, action, cars and even the bond whit!!!!! it has all been removed and now not even worth a watch!!!!! rather watch pant dry on a wall outside when its raining!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hey Pearny, If you like watching PANT's dry ive got some beauties for you to watch, they look like Lewis Hamiltons been doing donuts in em all weekend 
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06-11-2008, 09:27 PM
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Sorry... But when Bond shot Electra King in 'The World is Not Enough' it ruined any possibility of another film being liked by me !!!!
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06-11-2008, 11:09 PM
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I spy a peanut smuggler.
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06-11-2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt
I spy a peanut smuggler.
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surely thats not the title for the next film?
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07-11-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookee
It was dreadful - I agree with Jon, Craig isn't the problem. They took everything that was "Bond" and removed it!
Oh yes and then super bad criminal was guilty of stealing ................ Water!
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I agree that the bad guy could have stolen more then some water... But it is quite a clever idea... if he had all the water in the world, where would we go boating??
And i agree that there could have been more ladies...
As for the lacking in "bond"ness, and correct me if i'm wrong here, but Casino Royale and Quantam Solstice (or whatever its called) are set before all the other Bond films, so this is what he was like when he started out as a secret agent...
the only thing it really missed, the most important part... was the bond theme when something exciting is about to happen!
just my 2 cents...
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07-11-2008, 12:54 PM
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I've read all the Bond books & seen all the Bond films. The books are a total eye-opener if you've only watched the films. The films are nothing like the books. The only film that gets close is the Daniel Craig version of Casino Royale. (apart from the stupid 'sinking house' bit).
I've also read all the Bourne books & watched all the Bourne films. These are much closer to the books.
What I'm trying to say is that the 'traditional' Bond films are the odd one out here. Bond was always meant by Fleming to be a Bourne type character.
I guess from the comments so far that means I'm gonna like the new film.
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