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Old 22-08-2007, 09:38 PM   #21
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late tomorrow night................. well providing Ace gets in touch with either me or Gareth!

useless wanker!
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Old 22-08-2007, 10:11 PM   #22
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useless wanker!
That's a bit harsh, I don't think your useless!
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Old 22-08-2007, 11:25 PM   #23
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That's a bit harsh, I don't think your useless!
Feckin liar!!!
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Old 23-08-2007, 12:20 AM   #24
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its ok, I just got a text...........he's emailed Gill & Gareth

I'll be down to Drivers late tomorrow, c u friday when i awake (about 10)
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Old 23-08-2007, 12:36 AM   #25
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PM?
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Old 23-08-2007, 12:43 AM   #26
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as i always say............. i never give the units!
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Old 23-08-2007, 11:30 AM   #27
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I doubt it.

If Burty isn't doing it right, he probably doesn't know he isn't doing it right, or he wouldn't be doing it wrong in the first place!

It's a judgement for the skier, or an observer (not that observer), not the driver.

anyway, lets not go down the 'free the weston one' route eh.

It was just a throw away comment based on Cye's remarks, and, all the pics I've seen, showing 'Apache' heading for the sky.
Not that i would wish put myself in the "know it all " ski driver club, and said Weston one cannot comment on here (not getting involved in that thank you) but there are 3 people in a ski race team who all should have input into the post race meaningfull discussion , otherwise known as the scream up in the boat.Seriously it takes a lot of time on the water with all 3 to build up the rapport and i would say that an experienced observer is more important than anyone else in evaluating and bringing a new team together. I have driven for Cye, he is a very very good skier, with no doubt 2009 on his mind.
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Old 23-08-2007, 11:49 AM   #28
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Not that i would wish put myself in the "know it all " ski driver club, and said Weston one cannot comment on here (not getting involved in that thank you) but there are 3 people in a ski race team who all should have input into the post race meaningfull discussion , otherwise known as the scream up in the boat.Seriously it takes a lot of time on the water with all 3 to build up the rapport and i would say that an experienced observer is more important than anyone else in evaluating and bringing a new team together. I have driven for Cye, he is a very very good skier, with no doubt 2009 on his mind.
Cheers Bazza.

Yes I would certainly agree that the race is a team event and any weak link when competing at top level will certainly show.
The obersver has to be the most important role as you have stated and an experienced good observer can save alot of greif and time whilst racing.

After skiing for around seven years now I would have prefered to ski with an experienced crew so that I can concentrate on skiing, but Burty and Carl are local and willing, to be fair altho Carl is not experienced he is not doing to bad for his first season.......just would have been alot easier with an experienced observer.
Burnham was lost due to the crew making mistakes, Weston was lost due to the crew again making mistakes altho Weston would have been very close racing.
Still I did say to the crew that it would take a few races to get back up to speed, I would say that we are there now (speed wise) just don't need any more mistakes!!!!

Jon it was amazing how many people commented on how Apache appeared to be airborne for most of the race, even Carl's Nan who knows nothing about boats made a comment.
This could be down to the fact that we were going faster than most with a small hull or that Burtys style of driving needs a little tayloring, saying that I would not have wanted to drive a boat myself through that lot (but thats why I am the skiier).

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Old 24-08-2007, 12:58 AM   #29
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Jon it was amazing how many people commented on how Apache appeared to be airborne for most of the race, even Carl's Nan who knows nothing about boats made a comment.
This could be down to the fact that we were going faster than most with a small hull or that Burtys style of driving needs a little tayloring, saying that I would not have wanted to drive a boat myself through that lot (but thats why I am the skiier).

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Funny the different perspectives innit. I'd be quiter happy to drive (not saying i'd do a good job mind), but you wouldn'e get me on the end of that rope for love nor money, especially one of them feckin 1000hp machines!...you're all ferkin crazy!
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Old 25-08-2007, 12:16 PM   #30
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Funny the different perspectives innit. I'd be quiter happy to drive (not saying i'd do a good job mind), but you wouldn'e get me on the end of that rope for love nor money, especially one of them feckin 1000hp machines!...you're all ferkin crazy!

My sentiments exactlly.
I was talking to a couple of the skiers back at LM later and they said that they would rather be on the ski in those conditions than in the boat.
Strange 'cause they seemed like a good couple of lads, not mad at all.
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