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11-04-2011, 03:07 PM
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25 or 26
probably one for you here mr fuller.on this here phantom it says its a 26 did they make a one off or is it a 25
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11-04-2011, 03:11 PM
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The Doc
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it looky alikey a 25 to me
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11-04-2011, 03:22 PM
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London & Manchester
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Originally Posted by alice
probably one for you here mr fuller.on this here phantom it says its a 26 did they make a one off or is it a 25
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That is the first Phantom 25' ever built in 1981. Was built for Bruce Nash who used it for a successful Round Britain record attempt. (Round the top too).
The boat was originally called London & Manchester & was rigged by Eric Smillie.
Eric & Ed Williams Hawke co drove the boat with Nash for the attempt.
It competed once in National racing as London & Manchester winning 3D & class 3 overall in Fowey, Cornwall. Bruce Nash moved to the US & the boat was sold & renamed Property Growth Assurance.
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12-04-2011, 08:29 AM
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topgun
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Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alice
probably one for you here mr fuller.on this here phantom it says its a 26 did they make a one off or is it a 25
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Is this the same boat then, looks fantastic, trying to pull up a picture of Bentleys oyster bar but wont load!
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12-04-2011, 09:30 AM
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Registered User
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Boat name: The Mutz Nuts/Beyond Obsession/HoneyRider
Boat make: Phantom 20, Phantom 25, Cigarette 39 TopGun Unlimited
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A few more pics
As both Property Growth and London & Manchester.
Definitely a 25
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12-04-2011, 10:19 AM
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topgun
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Boat name: Flash Back/Avenger/Anchor Management
Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMutzNuts
As both Property Growth and London & Manchester.
Definitely a 25
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The picture of "Bentleys oyster bar" on this site shows it as a P26 Savak/tandem hull, so that is two hulls that say 26ft !
Anybody have any idea if Bentley is still around!
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12-04-2011, 10:51 AM
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Take a lookie at this early 80's Phantom sales Brochure pic
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Originally Posted by topgun
The picture of "Bentleys oyster bar" on this site shows it as a P26 Savak/tandem hull, so that is two hulls that say 26ft !
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Hmmmmm........now I'm confussed!
Was there a P26?
Over to you JF!???
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12-04-2011, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topgun
The picture of "Bentleys oyster bar" on this site shows it as a P26 Savak/tandem hull, so that is two hulls that say 26ft !
Anybody have any idea if Bentley is still around!
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Bentleys Oyster bar alive and kicking-mate of mine had his reception there last year !
I recently won an ashtray off e bay with this boat on it in that sponsorship
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12-04-2011, 01:15 PM
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topgun
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Boat name: Flash Back/Avenger/Anchor Management
Boat make: Sunseeker San Remo/mini cougar/Cougar cat 25/Avenger 21
Engines: San Remo 2x Volvo 5.7 v8/mini cougar Yamaha 25/Cougar 2x twin spark Yam V6/Avenger has volvo 300v8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Dutch
Bentleys Oyster bar alive and kicking-mate of mine had his reception there last year !
I recently won an ashtray off e bay with this boat on it in that sponsorship
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Always liked the tandem Phantoms Simon, remember Phantom Whistler, Paul Hamills 21 with the 235 OMC, and then Andy Chambers had his tandem 21 before moving up to the P25 and Flash.
Ahhhhh those were the days, "whats that nurse is it time for my nap"
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12-04-2011, 02:02 PM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMutzNuts
Hmmmmm........now I'm confussed!
Was there a P26?
Over to you JF!???
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The 26 (and 27) were stretched 23's (P25 predecessor) and were one offs, as in, I don't think a production mould existed for those specials.
I think the mk 1 P23 took some driving.
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12-04-2011, 04:45 PM
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Boat name: The Mutz Nuts/Beyond Obsession/HoneyRider
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
The 26 (and 27) were stretched 23's (P25 predecessor) and were one offs, as in, I don't think a production mould existed for those specials.
I think the mk 1 P23 took some driving.
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Thanks Jon
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12-04-2011, 06:46 PM
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I loved the look of that 27 ceilidh. Soooo much foredeck. Looked so slick. Wonder what ever happened to it. Left to rot in some field no doubt
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