New Boat..ish

[Gav]

Originally posted by Ciao
I wish I had never started this thread!! I blame Londis, 2 bottles of Oxford Landing for £6.99!

Classic! i thought that but didnt want to say!!

[michaelcaine]

oh dear

[Ciao]

Never tick off your free Webmaster! …

[Gav]

Originally posted by Ciao
Never tick off your free Webmaster! …

[Matt]

Ere, I think codprawn has splashed you. Dirty bugger
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....4&page=2&pp=10

Originally posted by Tony Davis
And I certainly couldn't be described as "pc", coz I like to call "a spade a spade" ,or a "nob a nob"!!!!!!

["Old beardy"]

I thought the moulds for the Boss 21 were laid up at De-Graaf trailers? Who has got the moulds for the 18ft version?

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by "Old beardy"
I thought the moulds for the Boss 21 were laid up at De-Graaf trailers? Who has got the moulds for the 18ft version?

Dunno about the earlier ones, they may well have been made at Arthurs place in Cobham (he's moved now) but the later Boss's were laminated at Walton Bridge (Shepperton) by Dave Prior, I believe the dispute over money, was with him. I also assume he had both the 18 & 21 moulds there at Bridge Marine.

An old mate of mine, Kevin Jones, raced the 18 in OCR 'Quinn Electrical'.

["Old beardy"]

Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Dunno about the earlier ones, they may well have been made at Arthurs place in Cobham (he's moved now) but the later Boss's were laminated at Walton Bridge (Shepperton) by Dave Prior, I believe the dispute over money, was with him. I also assume he had both the 18 & 21 moulds there at Bridge Marine.

An old mate of mine, Kevin Jones, raced the 18 in OCR 'Quinn Electrical'.

I was sure I had seen them at Arthurs when I picked up my trailer for the P18 in 2000.

I remember the Quinn Electrical 18, I think they got a 3rd at Guernsey which was a good result considering the opposition at the time. Why did they pack up?

[Jon Fuller]

Could be right, but i'd be surprised if he had them, as the dispute was with David Prior.

Dunno, haven't seen Kev in years, we used to play motorbikes together a million years ago, he seemed to pop into powerboating, and pop out again pretty quickly, I also remember talking to him in Guernsey in about '91, haven't seen much of him since.

[Tony Davis]

I spoke to Arthur yesterday and mentioned that I'd heard Nik was building the boss again, after a long laugh he told me that there aren't any moulds, but Nik does have access to the original plug, although what the condition of it would be like after 18 years is anyones guess.

He also said that in a field behind his trailer emporium is the 18 Boss plug!

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by Tony Davis
He also said that in a field behind his trailer emporium is the 18 Boss plug!

Oh, I always assumed it was a 'planted off' 21.

[Captain Chaos]

bizarre to think theres no moulds, but 2 piles of mdf have survived since 'wham 'packed up!

[Jon Fuller]

I go look inthe morning, see if they're still at Daves place.

[Captain Chaos]

day off?

now why am i not surprised!

[Jon Fuller]

cheeky fkkr! I've just landed after 4 miserable days in EuroDismal floggin me little heart out!

[Jon Fuller]

And had to buy TD a fkn ipod on the way out and cart it round wiv me till tonight!

[kinfast]

Originally posted by Tony Davis
I was always the polite member of the team, hate to think how Alan would have worded it, but then you have been desperately trying to get a reaction for a while so you can't really complain!

I'm not that keen on Phantoms either, much prefer Rings for obvious reasons, but to suggest that a Boss ( ) is better in any way is pretty lame, but then I seem to remember that you rated the Chaudron pretty high, so I'll just have to accept that your a bit of a knob!!!

You prefer "Rings" owned 1 for 2 weeks (2 weeks 2 long) worst
chine riding boat ever made, probably why Mike builds ribs now.
As for calling Ciao a "knob", how many boats have raced seriously and over what time period, I doubt no where near as many as he has. Anyway knobs are useful, if you are a boat builder lets see what you have got, or more to the point how many you sell (are they any good?) How do you rate the Chaudron? have you seen one? been in one? & if so how does it handle? & in your opinion as a boat builder what is the build quality like?

Prefer Rings to Phantoms! says it all

cheers, fun boating

[Tony Davis]

Originally posted by kinfast
You prefer "Rings" owned 1 for 2 weeks (2 weeks 2 long) worst chine riding boat ever made, probably why Mike builds ribs now.

All very interesting, haven’t experienced that problem myself. A few more details might help identify the cause of the problem, what model, motor, set up, was it new or s’h, etc etc.

Originally posted by kinfast

As for calling Ciao a "knob",

Don’t recall him denying it!

Originally posted by kinfast

how many boats have raced seriously and over what time period, I doubt no where near as many as he has.

Would never dispute his past success in his racing career, it’s where I first met him in 86 when I was racing a 4 litre Phantom, (never got it to go as well as Taboo did in your expert hands) and then again in the mid 90’s racing one of my own.

Originally posted by kinfast
Anyway knobs are useful,

I'm sure you are.

Originally posted by kinfast
if you are a boat builder lets see what you have got, or more to the point how many you sell (are they any good?)

Yeh, I have the (mis)fortune to be a boatbuilder, building Extreme’s between 21 & 26 foot. Do a search on the forum if you really are interested. As for them being any good, all down to personal opinion I guess, although it sounds like you wouldn’t appreciate them! As for quantity, I average about 4 a year, although the Honda boats pushed that up to 12 in 99. Can’t see why you think that high production means quality though, Bayliner build in excess of 30,000 pa.

Originally posted by kinfast
How do you rate the Chaudron? have you seen one? been in one? & if so how does it handle? & in your opinion as a boat builder what is the build quality like?

As I said in a previous post, I’m not that keen on Phantoms, so It goes without saying that I wouldn’t like a splash either! I’ve seen a few of them, Taboo and Richard Hills 25 in Poole, as well as the lovely 33 race boat at Cowes. Never been in one, and have no desire to either. Don’t agree with the ethics of stealing someone else’s design, especially when you then aren’t man enough to admit it!
I imagine they handle pretty well, as the Phantom is an excellent boat, and as for the build quality, I’m not really in a position to question it, although the red 25 at Poole seems well built, the upholstery seems to be of reasonable quality, but the fit out doesn’t look that good. The 33 at Cowes was abysmal, looked like it was made from corrugated fibreglass, which just goes to show that taking a mould of someone else’s product gives you an alright kind of finish, but when you try to stretch it, the faults and the inability of the builder will always show through! Mind you, if they had any talent they wouldn’t have to have had to steal the design in the first place I suppose!

Originally posted by kinfast


Prefer Rings to Phantoms! says it all

Spose so

[Ciao]

Originally posted by Tony Davis


Don’t recall him denying it!

Wise words!

[Tony Davis]

Luv you really!