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Old 12-04-2012, 09:48 PM   #1
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So with all the expertise on boatmad if your boat is ready and rigged for the race how much will it cost including entry fee to enter this great race/adventure for the various classes.
Forget the professionals just joe blogs who wants to do it on a budget
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:57 PM   #2
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Well I reckon Swipes must be at the cheaper end of the running cost scale, and I've no idea about hotel costs, or what diesel will be costing in europe next year, but if we were able to average 35mph over the 3000 statute miles, it'll take 85 hours and we'll burn circa 30 imp galls / hour, so about 2500 imp galls of fuel, plus £7500 entry, plus hotels & accom, plus a ground crew.......not cheap. At the current £6+ per gallon, thats £16K in diesel. The thought of 2, or 3 monster 100 GPH petrols is quite alarming.
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Come on John you spend half your life in Hotels with your flamboyent lifestyle you must know

What about support crew ie how many? as I'm not sure that one crew will make it in time to each venue.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:14 PM   #4
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Cowes to monty

We at LA to do cowes to Monty is 60K+ And have 3 Campers
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:26 PM   #5
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Come on John you spend half your life in Hotels with your flamboyent lifestyle you must know

What about support crew ie how many? as I'm not sure that one crew will make it in time to each venue.

Hard to say until you actually start trying to book. I reckon you'd need to allow £100 per person per day for accom/grub. (no flash hotels for team Swipes!)
if the support crew leave early each day, I think its possible with a single support crew. They can go long before the start time of the race each day., and unless you're sinking as you pull into the next location, it doesn't matter too much if the boat gets there before the support crew....within reason.
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Come on John you spend half your life in Hotels with your flamboyent lifestyle you must know

What about support crew ie how many? as I'm not sure that one crew will make it in time to each venue.
Don't try to re-invent the wheel. Big Dog is right. Hire a large Camper Van and use that for the two back up crew and your sleeping quarters. You can always use the showers etc at each Marina. The roads in France and Spain are now superb especially Spain. We travelled the route by car from Santander to Sada a Coruna and couldn't believe the fantastic black top dual carriageways with hardly a car on them - all new of course and apparently paid for by the Germans and us!! However, that 300 odd mile trip took just over five hours so with a bit of careful planning your crew could get to each venue way ahead of you - as they did in 1972!
You might not need back up crew,well you might need one. E.P.Barrus are chasing the fleet with a fully equipped truck and crew again as they did in RB08.
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I worked it out at around £130.000 to do the CMC with a couple of BBC petrols and that was being conservative, 2 back up vehicals; no camper van, and no flatbed truck and trailer, running at an average speed of 70mph.

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If any boat, regardless of class, averages 70mph I'll eat my hat.

Seriously, would be very surprised if anyone can average that speed for that distance, in those likely conditions.

Anyone who does, deserves the win.
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Assuming none of the support crew are getting paid I think that with boats like Swipes and the Shark with our small diesels we are looking at 40 - 50k all up with motor home type support (no hotels). I think the issue will always be providing a tow vehicle as if the weather is bad you will have to rent something if you haven't got your own.

Mike - I think that Barrus's support will be fantastic but I really don't believe it will remove the need for a support crew - if the boat needs work on it then although we will be having some rest days it will be tiring enough just being in the boat without spending the shore time working flat out on maintenance!
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Barry - it sounds like you might be tempted !!!
I may well sponsor you again.
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So with all the expertise on boatmad if your boat is ready and rigged for the race how much will it cost including entry fee to enter this great race/adventure for the various classes.
Forget the professionals just joe blogs who wants to do it on a budget
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Barry - it sounds like you might be tempted !!!
I may well sponsor you again.
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I was impressed with the presentation and it has got me thinking again

Boat needs stipping down and refurbed
Boat needs a little more speed for when the water is good
and the crew need to drink less in the evenings
Then just may be
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Should also add we lean't alot on RB8 and therefore hopefully we can iron most of the problems out

James we would love you onboard should we enter. You could be in charge of the entertainment. A glass of champers for us when we arrive in port.
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If any boat, regardless of class, averages 70mph I'll eat my hat.

Seriously, would be very surprised if anyone can average that speed for that distance, in those likely conditions.

Anyone who does, deserves the win.
Hey Jon, the 70mph average speed is what I would hope to achieve,and be equipped for. Then again it is a long endurance race and there is a record to break, if the weather permits great. I agree its doubtfull. Then again fuel costs would vary on a daily basis but you could burn as much going slow as going fast.

Just my thoughts on this event. both support trucks would carry the same spares and run ahead and behind the vessel.
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Something I would feel both qualified, and honoured, to do !!!

Go Team Bandit.

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Should also add we lean't alot on RB8 and therefore hopefully we can iron most of the problems out

James we would love you onboard should we enter. You could be in charge of the entertainment. A glass of champers for us when we arrive in port.
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