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08-02-2014, 09:51 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
Cruising area: solent
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Location: surrey
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Speed rails
Has anyone tried to put speed rails on a phantom?
If so what if any,handling characteristics changed?
I.e. Better holding in turns,less chine hop at wot??
Or should it be left to SB's judgement? Not trying to
Reinvent the wheel,just looking for an edge.
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08-02-2014, 10:42 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
Boat make: GPV-RENEGADE
Engines: 150 HO etec
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http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...eed-rails.html
im guessing.... but i would imagine the latter thinking to include the phantom pad would have been along the same lines of improvement that speed rails would give. main examples being early and late p21 and the p20/ 600 differences.
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08-02-2014, 11:52 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
Cruising area: solent
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Location: surrey
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Very interesting,might have an experiment with it.could also be in the market for some dolphin/shark skins as well.
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09-02-2014, 12:52 AM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: surrey
Posts: 478
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Also any thoughts on putting an aero hockey type surface into the planning pad?
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09-02-2014, 02:05 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
Boat make: GPV-RENEGADE
Engines: 150 HO etec
Cruising area: Thames, south coast, anywhere!
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: london
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we was going to do the golf ball effect when developing our 18's but didnt bother in the end. some of the thundercats have a sharkskin effect so i am told.
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09-02-2014, 01:42 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: surrey
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Golf balls
Ddh (dodecahedron) I'm thinking they are not all they are jazzed up to be I've lost loads.lol
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09-02-2014, 10:46 PM
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Moose
Country: Jersey C I
Location: Jersey
Occupation: Thread stripper
Interests: Winding up Donkeys
Boat name: Venom
Boat make: 1990 Phantom(what else)21
Engines: Mariner 225 opti
Cruising area: Channel Islands/France
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Jersey
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I tried the Volvo speed rails on my Phantom 21 many years ago - didn't find any noticeable improvement in handling or speed. I did however find an escalation of money movement out of my wallet as I lost at least 3 rails despite them being attached with Silkaflex and self tappers. just kept ripping the bastards off!
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14-02-2014, 02:23 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: surrey
Posts: 478
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Thanks for the info Moose, think I might give them a miss then.
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14-02-2014, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
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what was your thinking Andy? What changes are you after?
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14-02-2014, 03:41 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
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I was thinking to maybe to reduce chine hop, as on the crouch last season, on day 2 ( flat calm), I was struggling to keep it stable.maybe it's a prop issue but thought I might go done another route aswell.
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14-02-2014, 03:57 PM
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Engine tester
Country: united kingdom
Location: Southend on Sea
Occupation: Construction
Interests: Gin & Women
Boat name: motorvator
Boat make: Revenger San Marino / Sunseeker Camargue 46 / Phantom 18/19/600
Engines: 502 mercruiser / Detroit 550s / 115 ProXS / Anything Borrowed
Cruising area: Thames, Southend
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andymac
I was thinking to maybe to reduce chine hop, as on the crouch last season, on day 2 ( flat calm), I was struggling to keep it stable.maybe it's a prop issue but thought I might go done another route aswell.
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I noticed that. Put it down to the Carlsberg.
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14-02-2014, 04:05 PM
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The Doc
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I put it down to the not really looking where he was going!
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14-02-2014, 04:09 PM
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Engine tester
Country: united kingdom
Location: Southend on Sea
Occupation: Construction
Interests: Gin & Women
Boat name: motorvator
Boat make: Revenger San Marino / Sunseeker Camargue 46 / Phantom 18/19/600
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Cruising area: Thames, Southend
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Chaos
I put it down to the not really looking where he was going!
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Little point, did you see the state of his eyeballs?
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14-02-2014, 04:10 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motorvator
I noticed that. Put it down to the Carlsberg.
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What the lack off! Mitch(co driver) said we'll have a couple before we set of shall we.
But for the first time in my life I said No, coz if it went wrong I'd get the blame. So next time insert beer and all will be fine a?
Easy fix!!
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14-02-2014, 04:11 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
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i looked back at the footage and the boat looked quite flat from that? you had the yam drag on didnt you?
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14-02-2014, 04:16 PM
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Engine tester
Country: united kingdom
Location: Southend on Sea
Occupation: Construction
Interests: Gin & Women
Boat name: motorvator
Boat make: Revenger San Marino / Sunseeker Camargue 46 / Phantom 18/19/600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade
i looked back at the footage and the boat looked quite flat from that? you had the yam drag on didnt you?
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I'd be looking at balance - Move the carlsberg crate around the floor until it feels right?
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14-02-2014, 04:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
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i reckon that boat needs a live well glassed in for ice.
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14-02-2014, 04:26 PM
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Engine tester
Country: united kingdom
Location: Southend on Sea
Occupation: Construction
Interests: Gin & Women
Boat name: motorvator
Boat make: Revenger San Marino / Sunseeker Camargue 46 / Phantom 18/19/600
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It has to go up again.
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14-02-2014, 05:05 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Chaos
I put it down to the not really looking where he was going!
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When taking air, why not just smile at the camera?plenty of time to take in the aerial view.
Anyhow a profile of my nose is even worse.
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14-02-2014, 05:11 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motorvator
It has to go up again.
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Kerry, Although the Hammers may not be in the cup? I shall be in the cup forever!!
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