New race series

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Chris Davies

As to pure racing RiB’s they would be allowed to compete but at the race organiser’s discretion.
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It seems that we would only be welcome at the organisers discretion anyway!

SAT were asked to comment on the safety aspects of the entire PB1 and no adverse comment was received in regard to the newly introduced RIB rules.

Were they asked to comment on the Cougar 300's as well?

[OCRDA]

SAT were asked to comment on the safety aspects of the entire PB1 and no adverse comment was received in regard to the newly introduced RIB rules.

I think this was just "No comments were recieved" about anything in pb1 as most of us had lost the will to live by this point !!

I will however watch with interest to see how "side impact Protection" will be implemented on these Ribs !!

[PKJB]

Surely it is a positive that the person submitting these rules for additional classes believes that there is such a surplus of people wanting to race and a corresponding lack of classes that further fragmentation of the sport is to be supported in this manner.

It is also surely inconceivable that the recommendations from the RYA's own report and those of the external agencies involved in producing recommendations relating to the tragic circumstances of last year have not inherently been incorporated into the rules for these new classes.

[Scand]

Any updates on the RIB OCR?

[Cookee]

R.13 CLASSES
There are three classes defined within these rules – R1, R2 and R3; as follows:

Class
Length min Length max Total Boat HP – single or twin engine allowed
R1
8.00m N/A 700 diesel 600 petrol
R2
6.50m 8.00m 430 diesel 300 petrol
R3
5.50m 7.00m 330 diesel 200 petrol

None EPA/CARB outboard engines are not allowed.

Boats must have a CE certificate or, national equivalent or a certified measurement certificate issued by the National Authority of the entrant. The CE rating plate or national equivalent must be clearly displayed or the certified Measurement Certificate made available to the organising body. This rule is imposed to control the power to weight ratio of the boat.

The maximum boat horsepower must be equal to or less than that stated on the CE certificate (or national equivalent) or on the Measurement Certificate. The CE plate (or national equivalent) must be attached to the boat during racing.



The word doc is too big to upload here - I'll stick it somewhere and put a link up for those that are interested.

Still not convinced by the CE thing - it seems a bit irrelevant if you can just get a measurement certificate - and therefore doesn't control anything which CE approval doesn't do - I can CE certify a boat with as much power as I like if it floats and is stable at rest and I put a sticker by the helm saying do not turn at full speed!

Here's the link for the download http://files.me.com/cookee/rab5xv

[OCRDA]

Full rules are in PB1 Rib on RYA Website and downloadable as a PDF !!
Looks like the DitchCrawler is out.

[Renegade]

Is this class national or international? At the risk of starting WW3, but if this is just a national class does it not fall into the fragmenting what we already have arguement?On the other hand if the new classes do work and take off it may show that the existing structures are not working anymore or the old regimes are just not wanted.
Only time will tell.
i am not sure about 200hp on a 5.5 mtre rib though!

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Is this class national or international? At the risk of starting WW3, but if this is just a national class does it not fall into the fragmenting what we already have arguement?On the other hand if the new classes do work and take off it may show that the existing structures are not working anymore or the old regimes are just not wanted.
Only time will tell.
i am not sure about 200hp on a 5.5 mtre rib though!

It is intended to make it International which is why it is the proposed UIM rules - From what I can tell it is the same as the old RIB rules mucked around a bit and hopefully it will bring so of the existing boats back into racing again if anyone can make head or tail of the CE/measurement rule.

RIB racing has been around for quite a long time but has fallen off in the last 5 years, so it may actually bring some people back into the sport if we're lucky?

I happen to have the moulds for the 2005 British Championship winning boat if anyone wants a new one for next year!

[Renegade]

Got ya! So it's a re structure of sorts. I follow this with great interest. Good luck.

[Cookee]

In addition to this series it looks like Mike Lloyd has announced "on the dark side" another One Make series for RIBs

With any luck and a fair wind there could possibly be a one design/engine series racing next year for Rib's - 5 race series - we hope. No more news than that right now!
ML.

Anyone else know anything about this?

They must be confident that there are enough racers for two competing RIB series starting in two successive seasons although I would say that we're struggling a bit for numbers right now!