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Old 10-04-2009, 09:22 PM   #1
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classic phantom 23

how about this for a classic old phantom 23 Phantom 23 Powerboat Yamaha 225 & Twin Axle Snipe Trailer! (F205178 on boats and outboards
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:19 PM   #2
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how about this for a classic old phantom 23 Phantom 23 Powerboat Yamaha 225 & Twin Axle Snipe Trailer! (F205178 on boats and outboards
this was on ebay a couple of weeks ago

remember this .............. same guy

shame you cant swap the trailers over
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:28 PM   #3
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this was on ebay a couple of weeks ago
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=320348095581
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Old 14-04-2009, 10:32 PM   #4
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i have not been on here in ages, thought i would have a look around, me and my dad went to look at this just up the road from littlehampton before we bought the black 23.

erm lets just say, it needs alot of work and that was then! he demostrated the engine lift, it went down and well stayed down lmao!!!

so would seriously think twice from what i saw!

just a heads up
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Could anyone put a age to the p23 listed?????
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:33 PM   #6
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Could anyone put a age to the p23 listed?????
Early 80's
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:08 PM   #7
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The mk1 P23 family ran from 1975, to 1980 when the P25 replaced it.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:11 PM   #8
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For those interested....

......This was writen with help from Steve for a recent magazine article.




PHANTOM BOATS,

A brief history of the marque.

33 years @ 220 London Road

In 1969, Stephen Baker Jnr & Melvyn ‘Ricky’ Richardson decided to have a go at building themselves a raceboat following several disappointments with hulls available from existing manufacturers.
The result was the Phantom 16 ‘Droop Snoot’. Steve & Melvyn campaigned the 16 with some success, including gaining the 1970 National Championship in class III B, this in boat 153.
In 1973 came the Phantom 18. No one could have imagined when this boat first appeared how in years to come it would dominate Offshore Circuit Racing the way it did. Right up to the present day, the 18 and it’s fairly recent successor, the P18 EXL ( popularly called the ‘19’ ) are hot contenders for the OCR classes.
In 1974, the 3 day week imposed on British Industry by the government (by limiting of electricity usage due to the miners strike) brought about the departure of Melvyn Richardson from Phantom Boats and production was halted. However, Steve carried on with other work at London Road Sittingbourne ultimately seeing the crisis through.
In 1975 came the Phantom 23. It’s roots lay in the P18 and the sleek machine brought great success for many racers in IIID. Steve and his father won the coveted Putney Calais Putney race of 1975 in their P23 ‘SPECTRE’ covering the 230 miles at the amazing average of 65mph
In 1979 another new model, the P21 arrived on the scene. Again, it had similarities with the P18 but with a fuller bow and deeper sides. However, this was a short lived model.
In 1980, 2 completely new models were tooled and produced, a Mk II P21 and a replacement for P23 with improved recovery and hull form similar to the 21. This was the Phantom 25, destined to become a very popular IIID race boat indeed.
In 1982 a 31 footer was commissioned by a customer, this would not be a Phantom production boat but became well know as a Phantom product. This was ‘Warlord’. Powered by a single Mercruiser racing engine and Speedmaster Sterndrive for UIM class II
In 1983, long standing Phantom customer Pete Armstrong & his wife Jan, wanted a boat for the 2nd running of the Round Britain Powerboat Race planned for 1984, Steve’s drawing board was again kept busy, the result being the Phantom 28 'BRUT'. This boat was hugely successful in the Round Britain event , crewed by Peter, Jan & Steve, they walked away with a string of awards, including 1st in class & 3rd overall.
In the same year, another smaller design was undertaken, this was initially called the Phantom 600, but soon became known simply as the Phantom 20.
In 1986/7 some of the lessons learned from the Phantom 600 project were implemented in a re-vamp of the Phantom 21 running surface, later (’87), a new style deck was modelled for the 21. This is still the current design we see today.
Fast forward to 1994, A completely new Phantom 23 was produced. Looking very similar to the 21, but with a hull design intended to be more friendly in chop, the 23 also became the building blocks for the Phantom Evolution RHIB produced by Neil Holmes. This project was undertaken by Steve and Neil in around 2000, with early series production by Phantom Boats themselves.

1996 is the year the P18 got it’s length increased to 20’, a development program Steve did with OCR stalwart and multiple OCR nationals winner, Nick Barsch.

The last boat to leave the factory at 220 London Road Sittingbourne was a Phantom 23, in August 2001, this final build was destined for Europe.

Since that first Phantom 16 in 1969, over 1000 boats were produced at London Road, with numerous National, European & World titles being won in Phantom products in just about every class except Class1.
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Good reading JF ,just looking to replace my p20 ,maybe a later model hull would be better?????
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:51 PM   #10
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Great article, mind if i ask what mag that was in?
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Great article, mind if i ask what mag that was in?
Many thanks
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It was writen for 'Whatboat' magazine.

Neil Holmes had done a boat test article for them, testing 3 P21's with differing build spec & motors from the new builders, 'Cobra'.

Jackie from the mag (Neils Mrs) contacted me and said they were doing it, and wanted to add some history of the Phantom Boat company to the article to give a background into the boat and it's origins and asked if I could help.

I put the words together, then sent it over to Steve to check the details, dates etc, and add anything he thought was missing. The above page is the result. That was a few months ago.

I haven't seen the article in the magazine, but presume it did go to press.

I added the final paragraph for this post.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:30 AM   #12
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Thanks Jf, great reading, a man and a vision, achieved ... what more could one ask for
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yes very good reading john, how is steve not doing any thing with boats now, what a nice man he is went to london road a lot in them days allways very helpfull,
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:12 PM   #14
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Steve is very well. and not really involved at all with boats now, although he did put loads of effort & time into helping us with the 32, in terms of design & drawings for the revised hull, laminating schedules etc. A proper gentleman.

He and Anne popped along to Alhallows a couple of weeks back to watch the racing & chew the fat, so still has some interest.
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