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16-09-2010, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
A brace of Nelsons.
Bani Yas,Horatia & Sunpower.It looks like scrutineering at Souter before Round Britain,but I just can`t remember where scrutineering was for that.Avenger Too in foreground.
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Thanks for pics.
Bani yas, the Abu dabi gunboat,Cdr Peter pain RN retired.17th overall.
Horatia, RN retired Cdr Peter Thornycroft .16th overall.Suffered a broken engine mount when it fell of a wave.i dont know where they pulled in maybe Ramsgate,Engine was jacked up the mount wealded and they carried on,wonder where they would of came if they hadnt lost a lot of time.
It was blamed on a fracture maybe through careless handling at the docks.
Sunpower.boat 339 Charles L Wilson not listed as a finisher.
Grand Espior ,239 R J Wade,13th overall i bet that gave the Cmdr the hump.he sold the boat after i believe being the only finisher in a channell islands race when the weather turned very nasty,
The abu dabi team dressed for the ocasion.
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16-09-2010, 09:59 PM
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Thanks for all the kind comments,but no bugger done me a photoshop of Horatia with Grey coachroof
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Sorry John,
Computer crashed / died a few months ago... luckily everything saved (especially my boat pics!) but photo-shop not transferred to new one.
I would have had a go, but you're probably better-off getting a real computer whizz-kid / nerd to do it for you...
You can always "cut and paste" ..literally ! ..get an old pic, trace the shape, cut-out a bit of paper you've coloured-in (sad git) and paste it on... the old fashioned way !
Ok... I'll just (quite literally) sod-off now...
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16-09-2010, 10:28 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by Delta28
Sorry John,
Computer crashed / died a few months ago... luckily everything saved (especially my boat pics!) but photo-shop not transferred to new one.
I would have had a go, but you're probably better-off getting a real computer whizz-kid / nerd to do it for you...
You can always "cut and paste" ..literally ! ..get an old pic, trace the shape, cut-out a bit of paper you've coloured-in (sad git) and paste it on... the old fashioned way !
Ok... I'll just (quite literally) sod-off now...
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No worrys mate will be down at hayling all wk end turbo hasnt come back yet so i might just paint it anyway.Or i could take the old jeep to tilford rural life centre on sunday 400 vehicles booked in,so much to do,to young to be this old
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16-09-2010, 11:33 PM
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Struggling into my 4x4 anorak... is that an Austin Champ? ..and is that the one with a Rolls Royce engine in it?
..And does that machine gun work?!
...and when can I borrow it?!!
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17-09-2010, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta28
Struggling into my 4x4 anorak... is that an Austin Champ? ..and is that the one with a Rolls Royce engine in it?
..And does that machine gun work?!
...and when can I borrow it?!!
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Yes,Yes and No
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23-09-2010, 09:51 PM
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Got the price today for the Turbo rebuild no wasnt that bad really i supose.The brngs were shot ,the nozzle jet had bits missing,and the exhaust turbine blades damaged.The real mystery was the loud pop like a baloon bursting that came before the black smoke .It still gave the correct boost through the range but sounded very different in the mid range.It looks like something went through it from the exhaust side which is worrying,Would be interested in your opinions on this one please.
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23-09-2010, 10:06 PM
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Yellow.
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23-09-2010, 10:30 PM
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oh !!
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23-09-2010, 10:38 PM
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Sorry, I'll yell something else next time...
..and would that be "JCB", "Primrose", "Jaundiced" or just plain "Festering" yellow?
Sorry to mess with your thread John (and I have no idea what can have caused that to happen to your turbo apart from age / metal fatigue / wear and tear?) it's just that the other Ian has been given this complex about colour...
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23-09-2010, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta28
Sorry, I'll yell something else next time...
..and would that be "JCB", "Primrose", "Jaundiced" or just plain "Festering" yellow?
Sorry to mess with your thread John (and I have no idea what can have caused that to happen to your turbo apart from age / metal fatigue / wear and tear?) it's just that the other Ian has been given this complex about colour...
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I think it would be unlikely to be old age as it was all renewed probably no more than 100 hours ago.Dont think i would of repainted it yellow just for the sake of originalty,after all most of the time its a pleasure boat that no one recognises whos not into classic/historic boats.i was shown over the boat and i was astounded at the the quality of the finish and all credit to Ian.
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23-09-2010, 11:30 PM
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CW
Respect.
Ian.
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24-09-2010, 02:45 PM
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Turbo turbine failure
I would think that either 1) a blade tip failed & thrashed around before being spat out, or - and this is more of a worry - 2) something came along the ex manifold & wrecked it. Talking from a mechanical point of view, the top needs to come off the engine to be sure what caused it. If you don't - & something is putting debris into the ex manifold - then the new blower will go the same way as it's predecessor.
My ten penneth & being pessimistic.
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24-09-2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alacrity
I would think that either 1) a blade tip failed & thrashed around before being spat out, or - and this is more of a worry - 2) something came along the ex manifold & wrecked it. Talking from a mechanical point of view, the top needs to come off the engine to be sure what caused it. If you don't - & something is putting debris into the ex manifold - then the new blower will go the same way as it's predecessor.
My ten penneth & being pessimistic.
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Thats my worry as well,but its a monster job and the cost not counting mine and Andys labour outways another turbo rebuild.Bearing in mind one bank has not long had new liners/pistons ,valve guides etc i cant imagine anything except maybe a broken valve guide caused the problem.Even with the problem we had full power and max boost so its a worry but i think we may have to chance it.could of been a lump of carbon i supose.Its the baloon pop thats puzzling everyone.Thanks for your comments.CW.
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28-09-2010, 10:23 PM
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I hope he wasnt looking for that sparkplug.lol.
nice to meet up with our old boat Versatile.
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06-10-2010, 09:31 AM
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A couple more unearthed.
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06-10-2010, 08:48 PM
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Many thanks again,cant believe my luck. interesting to note the dark colour on the coachroof and the port nav light board painted red,all nice little snippets of imfo.cheers,John.
ps also grand Espoir no 239 i allways thought 139 carried through all the boats,unless its re numbered after it was sold.i would love to know why 139.
I found out that Tommy sopworth was no 40 or 400 and his e type had a 400 reg again i wonder why.
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06-10-2010, 08:52 PM
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Having met a man on the edge of the New forest who relieved me of a white envelope on the wetest friday of the year,its back,it weighs 33 kilos
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07-10-2010, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Catweazle
ps also grand Espoir no 239 i allways thought 139 carried through all the boats,unless its re numbered after it was sold.i would love to know why 139.
I found out that Tommy sopworth was no 40 or 400 and his e type had a 400 reg again i wonder why.
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Espoir - 39 (1962) 139 (1965/66)
Grand Espoir - 139 (1967/68) 239 (1969)
Horatia - 139 (1968/69/70)
Sunpower - 339 (1969)
For the RB 1969 3 boats entered 139,239 & 339 as above,as well as Bani Yas 563.
Sopwith`s racing jag reg no EE 400,was based on Equipe Endeavour (Sopwith`s racing team).Maybe as his father`s `J` class yacht `Endeavour` had a sail no K4,this was carried over to the cars and boats.
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08-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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[QUOTE=FLYING FISH;191208]
Grand Espoir - 139 (1967/68) 239 (1969)
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Looks like the new owner did change it then.cheers for imfo.
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19-10-2010, 07:22 PM
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Was going to put this on "Found in the attic"...
Thought it might be more appropriate here..
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