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15-09-2005, 10:46 AM
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2-stroke oil????
i used to be into 2-stroke bikes and one question i keep asking myself is can you use a fully syn 2-sroke oil for motorcycles in your outboard.i cant see why,perhaps some views on this or what oil you use would be good,
cheers,
jamie
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15-09-2005, 11:48 AM
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I believe that some synthetic 2T oils i.e. motorcycle, are not exactly Marine friendly!
Thats why they make Marine Grade Oils.
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15-09-2005, 11:50 AM
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i did figure that there was a difference!!!but the questions is what??????
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15-09-2005, 11:53 AM
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The Doc
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I thought the main difference between a decent synthetic 2-stroke oil and its marine equivelant was the TCW-3 antibacterial agent.
Although the oil is feckin expensive, I couldnt think of anything worse than having a situation where non-marine oil had festered in the lines causing the oil injection to malfunction and pop goes me motor! Although I suppose, in theory if you dont hve OI and srain your tank every time, motorcycle oil could be used. Is it worth the risk?
hope this helps
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15-09-2005, 11:55 AM
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put like that no!! whould the same apply to carb models using pre-mix??
take it a win captain!!!!!!
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15-09-2005, 12:35 PM
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I believe motocycles run at a different operating tempretures to outboards therefore motocycle outboard oil in an outboard does not lubricate it properly and will result in game over for your engine because the oil never reaches the tempreture it works best in. It is always best to use marine spec TCW3.
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15-09-2005, 12:38 PM
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That may well be correct.
Jamie, I reckon Matts your man on this one. He'll be back from the Worlds in a few days.
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15-09-2005, 12:41 PM
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cheers,from what i read so far im sticking to marine,just wondered thats all,just out of interested what oil do you use?
these bleeds????
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15-09-2005, 12:56 PM
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I use either the standard quiksilver TCW3 @ about £4.70 a litre or the Shell Nautilus tcw3 @ £3.70 / litre. However. my motor is just a standard 40HP, whereas most of you lot run high performance motors so you may use different stuff.
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15-09-2005, 01:15 PM
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Then why would you want to use Fully synthetic 2T motorcycle oil at £9.00/litre?
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15-09-2005, 01:16 PM
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2.4 merc tuned to 240hp.
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15-09-2005, 01:48 PM
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I run an xr2 and rev it to about 6800rpm constant and i use the mercury performance oil! Its feckin expensive but i use it coz it was designed by the manafacturer i know its good stuff! But theres cheaper stuff out there thats just as good that some of the other boy's on here use! Roofer's prob the best one to ask his engines prob the most tuned on here!
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15-09-2005, 01:56 PM
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wise words dude,i going along with that,
jamie
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15-09-2005, 02:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by scottyboy
Roofer's prob the best one to ask his engines prob the most tuned on here!
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I'm not sure he's had one stay together long enough to make an objective judgement.
Go for the Merc High Perf stuff, you won't go wrong.
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15-09-2005, 03:11 PM
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thats the green stuff right?
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15-09-2005, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by michaelcaine
thats the green stuff right?
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no! it comes in 10ltr white can's with a red band round it
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15-09-2005, 07:05 PM
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where can i get some????
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15-09-2005, 07:11 PM
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GB Watersports 01733322108
think its around £80 per can plus postage
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15-09-2005, 07:23 PM
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cheers mate
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15-09-2005, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
I'm not sure he's had one stay together long enough to make an objective judgement.
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You could be right jon, but for what its worth i run valvoline fully synthetic at 32/1
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