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Old 16-01-2014, 12:33 PM   #1
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now we are into 2014 is there any decision on what is going to be the class structure for boats/engines as bcc is now defunked,we know there will be v24 and 3b but what about the rest,and can the answers be from racers/organisers not spectators
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Old 16-01-2014, 01:01 PM   #2
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It is more likely 3A than 3B albeit there is the ability to crossover. 4 solid entries that we know of.

V24 you know about from OP.

UKfforc 150 is intending running as I understand it.

OCR / Club class I'll leave others to comment on.
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Old 16-01-2014, 02:47 PM   #4
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It is more likely 3A than 3B albeit there is the ability to crossover. 4 solid entries that we know of.

V24 you know about from OP.

UKfforc 150 is intending running as I understand it.

OCR / Club class I'll leave others to comment on.
in other words you dont know about the rest!
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in other words you dont know about the rest!
Jelly and wall spring to mind.
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Old 16-01-2014, 05:16 PM   #6
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back to the point i was trying to make,what classes are there for the boats that had been in bcc?
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I'll try to answer as best as my understanding is at the moment.

At a national level then you have V24, 3, UKfforc, OCR, P1, Zapcat, Thundercat and Marathon.

GPA may be awarded a national championship based on a handicap system to be submitted.

At club level I believe you can run whatever classes you see fit subject to approval of race instructions etc.
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bcc dead

its all a mess as usual. Probably left with a boat I cant race anymore ,a long with other 2lts
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I'll try to answer as best as my understanding is at the moment.

At a national level then you have V24, 3, UKfforc, OCR, P1, Zapcat, Thundercat and Marathon.

GPA may be awarded a national championship based on a handicap system to be submitted.

At club level I believe you can run whatever classes you see fit subject to approval of race instructions etc.

I didn't think OCR got "National" status ? thus had to go "Nations" ......
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Who is going to post the annual ' we must stick together and get the sport back'comment?
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I think OCR just carries it's national class status over. Whether there are any OCR boats left to run as a class is not clear.

Nations cup or whatever the latest incarnation is another matter entirely.

My understanding is BCC wasn't owned or run by any single club as some may think, it was an attempt to standardise club racing in order to give a national championship. As long as any organisation puts it's own interpretation on it then it falls down.

Same would happen with say Class 3 if one club decided to start running it in a vastly differing format from another.
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its all a mess as usual. Probably left with a boat I cant race anymore ,a long with other 2lts
There's nothing stopping 2 ltrs running as a club championship as far as I can tell.
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Same would happen with say Class 3 if one club decided to start running it in a vastly differing format from another.
That would be somewhat pointless as they are UIM classes ...
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There's nothing stopping 2 ltrs running as a club championship as far as I can tell.
Not allowed to call it "Championship" !!
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That would be somewhat pointless as they are UIM classes ...
Yes, the point is it is exactly the same with national classes.
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Not allowed to call it "Championship" !!
I think you're right there Bob, although I understood the main objection to be the National bit. You would know of course as you were at the ORC not me.

Am I right in saying that it was to distinguish national racing with it's clearly defined classes from club racing?
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just so i understand some of these posts and where this is going MOTORVATOR do you race/organise or just have an opinion?
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I didn't think OCR got "National" status ? thus had to go "Nations" ......
OCR is still A National Class but as it stands only the existing A & B what we aimed to to was to differentiate between us and Class 3 A & B
And to include the enthusiasts still running XR2 and up to 200hp
These will now continue to run as Basic but will still be eligible for the good Prizes.

As said before if anyone wants more info please get in touch for the true facts !
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I'll try to answer as best as my understanding is at the moment.

At a national level then you have V24, 3, UKfforc, OCR, P1, Zapcat, Thundercat and Marathon.
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if you dont have a replacement for bcc then at national event you will only have a max of 6 national entrys as the classes you have quoted dont come to our offshore races they put on their own events,and as i have previously been involved in trying to cover clubs costs then that amount of entrys will not cover clubs running costs
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