Phantom 21 - Page 4

Jon Fuller · 28-11-2006, 04:16 PM

A bow tank is a great asset if you want to run in shitty conditions, or run on moderate conditions with ease.

you'll need a pickup/dump scoop, hoses, control lever assy and cables.

Nicest lever & pickup setup are from Salmon Powersports, I happen to be an agent.

PM me if you want prices, and I'll sort summat out.

The Salmon stuff aint the cheapest, but is very nice.

Captain Chaos · 28-11-2006, 04:30 PM

the current salmon p/up is beautifull

stumpy · 28-11-2006, 04:54 PM

I have a bow tank and all accesories for sale, out of Taz's old 20ft Phantom if interested. Maybe the cheaper option!!!

OOpps said to mucH !!!!

Peterjfinch · 29-11-2006, 06:46 PM

Apparently I should change the mid section, to a 20". If this is correct, does anyone know anyone who has a 20" but wants a 25". Mine is a 2003 emgine, purchased in 2004. Sat on shelf as a spare, government use. Very low hours.

Peter

Wacky Racer · 29-11-2006, 07:15 PM

If you change your midsection you will need to get a 20" shaft put in your gearbox or a new box, If you jack youre engine up to compensate the 25" leg, c of g will be a bit high, should be ok for pleasure use though. Depends on how much you want to spend.

Peterjfinch · 29-11-2006, 07:23 PM

Hi Whacky, Would rather keep cost down, hence trying to exchange parts for the reverse change. Would like access to good speed but not intending to race. Pure pleasure and a bit of safe stupidity. That's why I was concerned about the C of G. I can lift the engine four holes but don't want to make her unsafe.

Peter

Peterjfinch · 29-11-2006, 07:23 PM

Sorry "Wacky"

Wacky Racer · 29-11-2006, 07:28 PM

No problem, but I would think twice getting advice from the person who told you to buy a XL engine

Peterjfinch · 29-11-2006, 07:37 PM

It was a friend of a friend. Who else should you be able to believe? Never again though. What should I look out for, when I lift the engine. Anything dangerous? Will change it this week and get her out again, praying for a flat sea.

Peter

Peterjfinch · 10-12-2006, 03:25 PM

Hi all, Raised engine about 2.5" and took her out this morning. Still a bit rough so didn't push too hard. She appeared to lean over to port more than when the engine was lower. This time I was alone so no weight on Port side. Did push her to 60mph (Max speed log from GPS) but she didn't seem faster although she lurched over hard. Any ideas ???? If the answer is, to move the engine over, how much ????. Cheers

Going for a

Peter

bigboy · 10-12-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterjfinch

Hi all, Raised engine about 2.5" and took her out this morning. Still a bit rough so didn't push too hard. She appeared to lean over to port more than when the engine was lower. This time I was alone so no weight on Port side. Did push her to 60mph (Max speed log from GPS) but she didn't seem faster although she lurched over hard. Any ideas ???? If the answer is, to move the engine over, how much ????. Cheers

Going for a

Peter

The same as it was before? Mine is 3cm to the right. Think this wont be enough for yours. I'm sorry but that's testing. It sucks because you dont want to drill 20 holes in your transom off course.

Peterjfinch · 10-12-2006, 03:34 PM

Hi Bigboy, Are you suggesting the original holes in the transom, as in picture on page 1 #5, in this thread ?? Is there any way of working it out, or is it purely as you said, trial and error. What if the engine is too far to the right ?

Peter

bigboy · 10-12-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterjfinch

Hi Bigboy, Are you suggesting the original holes in the transom, as in picture on page 1 #5, in this thread ?? Is there any way of working it out, or is it purely as you said, trial and error. What if the engine is too far to the right ?

Peter

Than it will lean to that side! Try to get some info about it. I know Fletcher says to mount the engine 3cm to the right. Is it hanging so bad on starboard? It's trial and error indeed

Have you noted how much it was hanging to the right original? Moving weight is no solution for this problem too. I dont know if there is a way to work it out. I dont think so... Ask people with the same boat as yours thats the only way i would do it...

Burty · 10-12-2006, 05:01 PM

sounds like you have got it trimmed in too far, i'd go out again and trim to level before drilling holes in the transom, mine is mounted in the middle and doesn't suffer at all with listing.

Peterjfinch · 10-12-2006, 05:07 PM

Hi Burty, I'm pretty sure it was near to trimmed, when I was doing about 30MPH, without any obvious listing. I then added the power and it went over quite a way, so I cut off at 60MPH. Does this make it any easier to work out the problem.

Peter

bigboy · 10-12-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterjfinch

Hi Burty, I'm pretty sure it was near to trimmed, when I was doing about 30MPH, without any obvious listing. I then added the power and it went over quite a way, so I cut off at 60MPH. Does this make it any easier to work out the problem.

Peter

I know a guy who had this problem. I even have a movie of it.

He mounted his engine to the right and problem was solved.

Peterjfinch · 10-12-2006, 05:18 PM

Hi Bigboy, any chance you could email the movie Please. You must have read my mind, I was going to ask, if I took a video of the problem, would it help. If your movie shows what I'm getting, it might help to be sure of the problem.

Peter

bigboy · 10-12-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterjfinch

Hi Bigboy, any chance you could email the movie Please. You must have read my mind, I was going to ask, if I took a video of the problem, would it help. If your movie shows what I'm getting, it might help to be sure of the problem.

Peter

http://www.oudee-power.de/movs/MICHI170.MPG

Lars T · 11-12-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboy

http://www.oudee-power.de/movs/MICHI170.MPG

BigBoy - what does the video actually show?!!?
A fletcher that doesn't clearly get out of the water?
A fletcher with the wrong prop/setup that's for sure.

To me it looks like the weightdistribution is off and not only the engine..

bigboy · 11-12-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lars T

BigBoy - what does the video actually show?!!?
A fletcher that doesn't clearly get out of the water?
A fletcher with the wrong prop/setup that's for sure.

To me it looks like the weightdistribution is off and not only the engine..

I know the owner of this boat. He 's on the same german board as me. He cant give full throttle because it's hanging on it's side. And the reason is because it's not mounted to the right and this is were it goes about! His motor(peterjfinch) was original mounted a lot out of the centre. They did that not for the looks i imagine