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23-01-2007, 02:22 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: kent
Occupation: director
Interests: ski racing
Boat name: hotshot
Boat make: cyclone 21
Engines: mercury 280
Cruising area: global
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: kent
Posts: 419
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Crash Helmets
J ust spoken to the nice lady at www.primamotorsport.com and the price is £362+vat open face £352+vat full face. These helmets come complete with built in intercoms, you have to buy an offshore pack presumably to power them do not know cost of that, lost interest!!!
This is all a bit sudden and some may think a tad expensive when you consider previous acceptable helmets, mine have every relevant kite mark but wrong colour,
I know the answer will come back that its a small price to pay for safety, however £838.95 with VAT for a pair of helmets will break a few teams budget and i fear also their involvement.
Surely there are alternatives available.
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23-01-2007, 02:37 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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There are plenty of alternatives !! Any helmet providing it is GRP or Composite can be painted Orange !! The best ones i came across at the Autosport show were the Sparco Formula for about £180 ish!! (Dont forget they are for Motorcycle use).
The Stilo are quite heavy & I didnt think very comfortable, The Stilo Intercom base unit is about £380 + Vat but still not very good if the plugs etc get wet.
The Orange Sparco may be available later in February & is due tom be replaced by the more expensive Carbon one in May !!
If you can put an order together for 10 or more Sparco say they could do us an Orange production run & give some discount !
They also told me that any of the helmets with built in (Headphone Style) intercoms are made by Peltor but that may depend who you talk to.
Bob
PS You cant put a price on Safety !!
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23-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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#23
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Registered User
Location: Essex
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 2.5efi
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I did'nt think you could paint the helmets for safety reasons. Or am i wrong?
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23-01-2007, 08:10 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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Originally Posted by Dangerous
I did'nt think you could paint the helmets for safety reasons. Or am i wrong?
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You can't if they are made of Plastic (Polycarbonate) but you can if they are GRP.
After all that is how they make them different colours in the factory !!
Bob
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23-01-2007, 08:25 PM
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#25
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
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So whats everyone else doing then? looks like i need a new helmet but don't want intercom etc as i already have my own. All new motorbike helmets seem to have wind deflectors etc on the back so dont think really any good for the boat
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23-01-2007, 08:31 PM
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#26
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Registered User
Location: Essex
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 2.5efi
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Location: Essex
Posts: 337
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Waiting to see if i find a skier before partin with any Stella money! Thats what i'll be doin.
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23-01-2007, 09:36 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Somerset
Interests: Ski Racing
Boat name: The Equalizer
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somerset
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The Takachi ones at £39 sound good to me. In red? but if they can be painted?
My existing helmet has the right kite marks, (its over 5 years old, but thats only a recommendation) but I cant prove that it was ok to paint it !!??
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23-01-2007, 10:01 PM
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#28
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Registered User
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same as me dude. tis a right pain but then safety first
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23-01-2007, 10:16 PM
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hello
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burty
but then safety first
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Seems the constant nagging from the health and safety people at my work really has started to wear you down, next you'll be wearing your seat belt!!!
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23-01-2007, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Boat Dude
Seems the constant nagging from the health and safety people at my work really has started to wear you down, next you'll be wearing your seat belt!!!
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but i still walk along whilst using my mobile and carry items in my hands whilst using the stairs
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23-01-2007, 11:07 PM
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#31
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Somerset
Interests: Ski Racing
Boat name: The Equalizer
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: Suzuki 140
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Location: Somerset
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Exactly
How many drivers/observers have been injured through wearing 'inferior' helmets ???
I'm old enough to have learned to drive without having to wear a seat belt. My first car didn't even have seat belts in the back !
I'm all for safety, and as has already been said "You cant put a price on your scull", but.....just so we cant sue the BWSF/RYA for not trying their best Health & Safety gone mad !
Perhaps we should limit the speeds to a gentle trawl ? Wouldn't want to put anyone in danger or get too much adrenalin rushing around.
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24-01-2007, 09:12 AM
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Don't get me wrong i'm happy to purchase one but where can i get one that is full face without intercom!!! and already orange or able to be painted orange at reasonable money????
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24-01-2007, 09:59 AM
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
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Have you tried this site LifelineJackets.com. They also sell Bell open and full face helmets painted at the factory.
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24-01-2007, 10:04 AM
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
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That link didn't work for some reason but a Mag 4 open face in orange is $260.00.
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24-01-2007, 10:17 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
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Helmets
Quote:
Originally Posted by gar163y
That link didn't work for some reason but a Mag 4 open face in orange is $260.00.
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http://www.lifelinejackets.com/
Only $285 for an orange Full Face !!
Bob
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24-01-2007, 04:47 PM
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#36
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thats seems like a good deal, its a little risky though cus what happens if it dont fit?
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24-01-2007, 04:54 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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Helmets
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burty
thats seems like a good deal, its a little risky though cus what happens if it dont fit?
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If there are enough people to order a quantity then we may get a better deal & more chance they will all get one that fits !! if we end up with a couple of spare ones they will soon sell !!
Bob
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24-01-2007, 04:57 PM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
If there are enough people to order a quantity then we may get a better deal & more chance they will all get one that fits !! if we end up with a couple of spare ones they will soon sell !!
Bob
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Right o, so who wants one then??
ME
JBD
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24-01-2007, 06:49 PM
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#39
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
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Adam sells the orange roof helmets, ive got 2 and they are great. www.k4plus.com/shop.asp?catid=7
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24-01-2007, 08:53 PM
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#40
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Registered User
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Location: Somerset
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Boat name: The Equalizer
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Roofer, what about open face ones ?
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