Shaken not stirred

[Jon Fuller]

That motor looks very tidy inside!

The 482efi was roller lifter, crane gold roller rockers etc.

Not sure how easy it would be emulate the cam from that era now, or even find out what was in it. I need to collect the last of the bits, will look for some cam ID if I can.

I had the Lucas system on a 2.5 L6 Triumph motor (TR6 style) installed in a Triumph GT6 (for my sins) back in the early 80's. That was a greedy fecker for a small motor.

[Mike Bontoft]

The tie bar breaks and wipes out the cam
I've had better luck with this style

[Captain Chaos]

what manufacturer are the later please mike?

[Mike Bontoft]

Crane. Summit has one set. Crane went bankrupt earlier this year so don't wait too long before you purchase http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRN-13528-16

Problems with dry martini engines so far.
#2 engine (rear) had about a gallon and a half more oil in it than it should have and the oil is piss thin with fuel, I will have to check the mechanical fuel pump and a few other items to see where that came from.

#1 engine, the camshaft would not slide out during disassembly due to a bad ridge on the second cam bearing. It was built with too little clearance and the coating and babbit move around to block the oil feed holes. The only oil this bearing has been getting was thrown off the crank. All the bearings are coated in these two engines. "New and improved (costs more)" coated bearings really trick????. If the clearance is correct and you have a good clean oil supply the standard bearing have always worked fine in the past. I agree coatings for piston skirts and other high friction surfaces works very well, I'm just not sold on the coated babbit bearings, maybe too old school.

[Jon Fuller]

I know I'm an old duffa, but I really do believe in the old "If it aint broke, don't fix it" line.

I wasn't aware that cam bearing were a weakness in these motors? The 5 journals working together must be quite adequate in controlling the cam I would have thought. (without Hokey Cokey 2000 super products being introduced)

The buggered lifters in warlord's motor still have an intact link plate, so not too sure why it failed. actually, thinking back to when I looked at it, I've a feeling the evidence suggested the pin through the body on which the roller spins appears to have failed. will dig it out and post a pic.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

what manufacturer are the later please mike?

You realise those are mechanical roller, and not hydraulic roller don't you Mr Chaos.

[Captain Chaos]

yes Jon, i had worked that out all by myself

[Mike Bontoft]

Your right, camshaft bearings aren't normally a problem with these engines but sometimes you will get a tight one when assembling a new block. The babbit will shine up on the problem area. They make oversize sets so you can line bore the block in case you get one that's really messed up.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

yes Jon, i had worked that out all by myself

OK, I shalln't interfere again.

[Captain Chaos]

I didnt say you had to stop interfering you tetchy old bar-steward. I just answered your question

[Big V]

Mike,

Stunning boat, love the history, great purchase mate and even better that you are going to race her in such a prestigious race

Jacques.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

yes Jon, i had worked that out all by myself

I'm tetchy?....righto.

[Captain Chaos]

yes, always

its the iron-oxide in you

[andymac]

strawberry blonde

[Black_Tornado]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

At the risk of having `Black Tornado` on my tail,that boat seems to be the restored one from America (35ft Ciggy),which raced over there in 1974 -1980.
C.Bonomi (74 & 75),G.Niccolai (76),and David Hagan used it in 1980 to get Harmsworth points in the Benihana race.

Far days from your tail, Flying Fish, I enter in the discussion for before thing complimenting me with Mike for the jewel purchase.
It is matter of the 35' hull no.2 built in 1974 for Bonomi and that in these last times it was of Kurt Berger in USA.
Nothing to whether to do with the 36' 'Kangol' with which Niccolai did his debut in offshore in the VBV of the 1976. That was probably the ex Fino-Red Vengeance-Dry Martini (red)with the deck modified.

[Black_Tornado]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

From what I can make out,the following races Dry Martini IV took part.It`s a minefield trying to know which particular Dry Martini boat was used.

1974 - Hennesy GP - ret

1975 - Miami-Nassau - ret,Key West -ret,Benihana - dis

1976 - Viareggio-Bastia (Some doubt if it was DM IV)

1980 - Benihana - ret

So it wasn`t exactly thrashed.I thought the boat had been completely rebuilt and was ready to start racing again.Little Nige posted a diatribe on it some time back.

Graham,Bonomi drove the 35' in only five races alls in USA. The boat has left the USA after 35 years now that Bontoft has bought her.

1974
-Bahamas 500 - 1st with Harold Smith
-Hennessy GP - retired (stern drives)

1975
-Benihana GP - disqualified (was 2nd)
-Miami-Nassau - retired
-Key West - with Roberto Succi retired

[Mike Bontoft]

Black Tornado, Thanks for the history. It started off great with a win in the Bahamas 500 which from what I've read was a tough race, with Smitty at the throttle no less, but then she had a streak of bad luck.
I think its about time for another win

[Black_Tornado]

I am not sure yet on that of the Dry Martinis Bonomi won the two races in South America in January 1974 but I thinks was with the 36' that it was in USA from the end of the season of competitions of the 1973.
However that of the Bahamas 500 were the first victory for a Cig. 35.'
Model that had debut the previous year it delayed to affirm in a competition contrarily of the predecessor 36' that instead it immediately won to the debut.
You have purchased that that I think is the best restored and preserved among all the historical boats in the world.

[ashley nihell]

2nd pic fantastic

[Mike Bontoft]

Which book did the first one come from? The second is what its all about