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Old 09-11-2005, 07:40 PM   #1
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Need Advice on Phantom 18/19 Speed Boat

Hi I am new to the whole power boat thing. I have been helping my father on his 30ft cat for the last few years and decided I wanted to go a bit faster. I am currently looking at two Phantoms

My Dilema is One of the Phantoms is in better condition than the other and cheaper but only has a 90 on the back whereas the more expensive one has a 150hp (that hasn't been serviced this season). Basically how much difference will there be between a 90 and 150? If anyone has one for sale below £3,000 please let me know

Also I am looking for somewhere to store it as was looking at the marina but if i can store it cheaper elsewhere including launching fees it would be preferable (then I wouldn't have to antifoul it)

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Old 09-11-2005, 08:14 PM   #2
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This is for sale, phantom 18 with merc xr2 engine.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:32 PM   #3
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Is that boat in blackpool roofer & is it a 18 footer...how much is it
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:46 PM   #4
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It was my old boat, i bought it from blackpool a couple of years ago, the guy who owns it now lives in barrow and i think he wants around 31/2 k for it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:55 PM   #5
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Mmmm..looks in good nick...is that a recent pic or one of your old ones...is the mota ok...has it been raced hard
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The hull was in excellent condition due to a heavy lay up, engine started first turn after not being run for nearly a year, interior was brand new when i sold it, dont think new owners used it much.
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hi mate im from brighton as well,have you tried andy paces yard at newhaven,i think he charges about £500 a year for secure storage?
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Cool, how much is that to launch? and does he do monthly prices?

Also any ideas on which one to go for as there is only a £500 difference (reason as thinking that the 150 hp could do with cleats and respray)
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Blackpool is little bit far for me being in brighton but thanks
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hi,he might do monthly payments,he charges i think about £5.00 in and out if you store boat with him and £13.50 if you dont,you can leave it in the water at a charge of £8.00 a day,very cheap i think and thats where i launch mine.not sure about advice on boat as im relativly new to it as well,mr fuller is the guy to speak to about phantoms...........paging jon are you there???
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Cool, how much is that to launch? and does he do monthly prices?

Also any ideas on which one to go for as there is only a £500 difference (reason as thinking that the 150 hp could do with cleats and respray)
It might help if you tell us what engines are fitted.
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Sorry I don't know all I know is the difference in hp as the 150 has had a respray but going to take for a spin on sat so can find out

its a 90 hp mercury
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my best advice i can give you is take someone with you that knows about outboards if you dont know yourself,if they go tits their bloody expensive,also a 90hp engine on a 18ft boat is gonna be worked hard!!
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also a 90hp engine on a 18ft boat is gonna be worked hard!!
My 300+ hp is worked hard. First thing id ask is why its been painted .
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Sounds good, is that tidal reliant?

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yes but as its near the harbour mouth its not to bad,you can still launch when low
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yes but as its near the harbour mouth its not to bad,you can still launch when low
any idea on the number can't find in yell
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:53 AM   #18
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Steer well clear of that, it's an old donkey of an engine!

Mate of mine had one, it broke down, the cost of a trigger & stator was more than he could get for the engine if it was working!!!!

An 18 footer needs at least 150, IMHO.
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Ditto, the best 90 is a Yammie. The 90 Tohatsu is a 2nd choice but you won't find many of those.
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My thoughts would be a 90 is plenty for you key point is "I am new to the whole power boat thing" always get a bigger motor as you get used to the game, But the merc is an old design that has seen better days. about a 115-120 would be about right. get the better hull & use the merc as an anchor, now there's a thought ?
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