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24-01-2011, 09:27 AM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
I ended up losing a Championship because at the last round a couple of people were "broken" and the guy I could beat didn't turn up for me to beat either so I couldn't get any points meaning I didn't have a chance to win or lose on merit so I agree on the above as it would stop tactical stuff.
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But you might have been a DNF anyway! Can't really count a race you didn't do as if it were a dead cert.
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24-01-2011, 10:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBP
I remember the simple handicap that the RMYC used on their Wednesday Night series The Chasers, where you would have anythong from a zap/thunder cat up against P28s and large ribs etc too.
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Having done that Wednesday night series for a few years the skill was knowing how Chris calculated the handicap and not how fast could I drive the boat.
Would we have the same situation that they have, or at least had, in rally driving where a car sits 10 feet from the finish line looking at a stopwatch.
It might me eariser to travel through a mine field in Iraq than creating the handicap rules. Good Luck!
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24-01-2011, 01:16 PM
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BananaShark Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
But you might have been a DNF anyway! Can't really count a race you didn't do as if it were a dead cert.
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Probably could have worded it better - It robbed me of a chance of winning the Championship, I would rather have lost on the water than because I wasn't allowed to get any points because of the rules and a no show!
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24-01-2011, 09:20 PM
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C Class
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In 'E' class, we 'usually' have two (used to be more) in Gordon C and us.
'D' has pretty much always had Hot Lemon and has seen Grey Ghost, Seahound and a 3rd Scorp from time to time, plus we will soon have the Boss 34, and Ring 34.
'C' class only really has Bob in the XS, so C is an issue
'B' has Cinzano, Fury, and some other potentials.
'A' has Dean, Rob, and some other potentials.
So C appears to be the only class in immediate trouble.
C class had at least 8 boats in CTC and 3 or 4 at Weymouth - I think it was one of, if not the largest fleet at Cowes and certainly at Weymouth. So dont think C class is necessarily the problem.
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25-01-2011, 10:02 AM
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BananaShark Member
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Of course we are hoping to do the whole season in E Class - hopefully with Gordon it will make three? Anyone else?
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25-01-2011, 02:07 PM
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Location: West Coast of Norway
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I am working on a single engine concept for the E-class, will not be racing this year, but want to be ready for the water for next year.
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25-01-2011, 02:43 PM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keyzr
C class had at least 8 boats in CTC and 3 or 4 at Weymouth - I think it was one of, if not the largest fleet at Cowes and certainly at Weymouth. So dont think C class is necessarily the problem.
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OK, cool.
What boats ran C class at CTC last year?
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25-01-2011, 05:26 PM
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C Boats - Entered into the 2010 British Powerboat Festival
Relentless - C5 (DNS Cowes 100, R CTC)
Blue - Absolute - C7 (DNS Cowes 100, R CTC)
Birretta - C12 (R Cowes 100, DNS CTC)
Going Lean II - C 17 (R Cowes 100, DNS CTC)
PPG Print - C 99 (DNS Cowes 100, R CTC)
Carbon Neutral - C343 (1st in Class Cowes 100, 1st in Class CTC)
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25-01-2011, 06:15 PM
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numbskull
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Thank you.
So, C class looks healthier than I thought, leaving probably E & D low on numbers, and hopefully Cookee & Zed will each bring the two classes up by one entry this year, thus helping enormously.
Not sure there's a good argument for handicapping in that case.
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Originally Posted by Ciao
Relentless - C5 (DNS Cowes 100, R CTC)
Blue - Absolute - C7 (DNS Cowes 100, R CTC)
Birretta - C12 (R Cowes 100, DNS CTC)
Going Lean II - C 17 (R Cowes 100, DNS CTC)
PPG Print - C 99 (DNS Cowes 100, R CTC)
Carbon Neutral - C343 (1st in Class Cowes 100, 1st in Class CTC)
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26-01-2011, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao
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I totally agree - It causes confusion to the entrants, & as for any spectators (Including sponsors), well ... ... ... !!!
The only mildly sensible handicap race is one (usually on a circuit), where the boats start off at graduated times, & if the handicapper gets it right, they all finish together. This type of event was run by R.Sn.Y.C., & R.M.Y.C. in the 1960's but went out of favour. Wonder why !
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