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Old 09-05-2007, 06:09 PM   #1
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Ebay 200xs opti scam?

Does this look like a scam to anyone else??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercury-OPTIMA...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:23 PM   #2
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Thumbs down no way

he,s also selling jet ski,got to be a scam (almost tempted though )
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:48 PM   #3
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the description is very american and in the reflection on the cowl is a lovely palm tree, scam i think
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:51 PM   #4
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we have palm trees in NEWCASTLE
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:21 PM   #5
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same engine was on boats and outboards, a thread was also started about it back then.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:24 PM   #6
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we have palm trees in NEWCASTLE
ok point taken,but have you blue skys and white picket fences(more reflection)
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:14 PM   #7
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the description is very american and in the reflection on the cowl is a lovely palm tree, scam i think
could have been taken at Kew Gardens just over the river........NOT
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:34 PM   #8
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Bevor i bought my 300XS i have been in contact with the man who had it for sale on b&o , took a mail or 10 befor i got an answer from him , he told me the engine was for sale at 2500pounds .
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:57 AM   #9
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Scam!

just had reply from seller,....quote;cant tell me engine hours,service history as he,s out of the country at moment.No cash on collection either GIVES HIS NAME THOUGH FOR WHAT THATS WORTH.......
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:53 AM   #10
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I just got a reply too...
Sorry but the item will be shiped to your home address.The reason why I am not able to make a face to face transaction is because I am curently out of the country. I would have also prefered payment on collection as well.
Thanks in advance for the understanding.

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Old 16-05-2007, 12:24 PM   #11
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Sent to the winner...

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Hello,

Here are my full info for wester union:

Jeremy Lank
2, Harlequin Avenue
Brentford Middlesex TW8 9EW
United Kingdom

Please email me your payment confirmation and i will start the shipping immediately and i will email you the tracking number.

Thanks
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Old 16-05-2007, 12:43 PM   #12
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X-Exiscan-SA-New-Subject: *SPAM* Mercury OPTIMAX 200xs High Performance - Item number 290113905492 -
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Congratulations, the item is yours. Please pay now!

Dear rnp13,

Congratulations! You committed to buy the following item:


Mercury OPTIMAX 200xs High Performance
Sale price: £1,420.00
Quantity: 1
Subtotal: £1,420.00
Shipping & Handling: check with seller
Insurance: (Included in the shipping and handling cost)
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Details for Item number: 190098180917
Item URL: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...L:EOISSA:UK:31
Sale Date: Thursday, 10 May, 2007 18:52:31 BST
Seller: jlan6626(kefirtyx@yahoo.co.uk)
Payment details: [Western Union,MoneyGram]
Seller Information
Jeremy Lank
2, Harlequin Avenue
Brentford Middlesex TW8 9EW
United Kingdom

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Old 16-05-2007, 01:39 PM   #13
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Hi verytricky

Did you win the item?

I still think this is a scam. The seller is no longer an ebay member and £1400 is far far too cheap!

Also, if the payment is being made to a uk account, there is no need for western union transfer? This is for int. transfers - not UK to UK. This would be a standard chaps / bacs if it was UK.

Hope for the winners sake that it is genuine but do not think it is .

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Old 16-05-2007, 04:00 PM   #14
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The info is:

despite the winner living in Twickenham - less than 1 mile from the seller - he would not allow collection, but required a Western Union money transfer, then the item would be courriered.

He would not allow COD, COC or Bank Transfer.

The address given is bogus.

The Police are not interested in investigating.

Ebay are not interested, just cancelled the account.


Bottom line - yes, it definately was a scam, no question at all.



Since the alert given on boatmad, the bid was set at £10 000 to ensure that the item was won by someone who had the savvy to investigate things first, before handing over money, thus protecting to some extent some innocent out there who may have paid out. So well done on the alert!
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