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19-03-2009, 01:08 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Correct, but if Cookee continues to drive like a girl he'd be ok
And they're cheap(ish)
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Knowing my reputation for breaking Mr Mercury's equipment - driving like a girl is an accusation that hasn't been aimed in my direction before!
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19-03-2009, 05:04 PM
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Registered User
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Posts: 137
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Originally Posted by The Docta
Hi Cookee - its a 2003 in silver.
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cool i will await his call i have cash or maybe a deal with a boat i have couple of ribs for sale and a hunton gazelle xrs 35 cheers ashley 07868759483
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19-03-2009, 05:53 PM
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Senior Member
Country: netherlands
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Occupation: truck repair
Interests: fast boats/porches
Boat name: bernico cat
Boat make: bernico 26 cat 2x 2,5,s
Engines: merc,s 2,5 EFI,s
Cruising area: ijselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Posts: 382
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Originally Posted by pennpromo
Thinking back in 1987 I raced in the European Champioship against Tullio Abbate, he had oneof his monos of about 42 of so feet called something like "Grunland Cheese".
It was green and white and had a pair of Issotta V6 diesel motors in on Arneson ASD 8s with drop boxes. It was pretty unremarkable boat, did what it said on the tin. Never won anything but was always running, so much so in fact that coming back in from one race they couldn't switch off the engines and mounted the pontoon dock which then emi sank and stranded the boat like a beached whale on top ! It had to then be craned off. In fairness the Issottas always had that problem the engine stop solenoid was mounted in the middle of the V to activate the diesel rack and often failed as it got wet/ connections vibrated off; we had a manual morse cable as a backup as we had been caught by it ...
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If you have any more info regarding the Isotta,s V6 diesels ,that would be great as I have such an engine that i,m going to use next year ,I am intrested in what speeds they were running ,and what ratio and pitch etc etc
thanks A.J
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19-03-2009, 08:09 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Originally Posted by sterling
If you have any more info regarding the Isotta,s V6 diesels ,that would be great as I have such an engine that i,m going to use next year ,I am intrested in what speeds they were running ,and what ratio and pitch etc etc
thanks A.J
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Me too! The Seateks are a big motor, and I think the Isottas or Yanmar 440's may be more readily available and a bit more sensible, at least as far as fitting them into a hull!
Sterling, do you have some engines already - second hand or new? If so how much if you don't mind me asking - PM or email me if you prefer - cookee@bananasharkracing.com
Thanks,
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19-03-2009, 08:42 PM
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Senior Member
Country: netherlands
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Occupation: truck repair
Interests: fast boats/porches
Boat name: bernico cat
Boat make: bernico 26 cat 2x 2,5,s
Engines: merc,s 2,5 EFI,s
Cruising area: ijselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Posts: 382
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I,ve got a set Yanmar 440 ,s with 2 speed transmissions and Arneson ASD8,s ...But I have them for my boat (baja 40 outlaw) However I do want to sell the engines ,if the engines I,m after (cummins 480,s ) are resonable prices,(I,m waiting for a price quote )
The Isotta,s V6 engines are very old ,the one I have is from 1986 ,and produce 450 HP @ 3100 rpm.
In some Italian websitesyou can find them often for sale .
A.J
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20-03-2009, 08:56 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sterling
I,ve got a set Yanmar 440 ,s with 2 speed transmissions and Arneson ASD8,s ...But I have them for my boat (baja 40 outlaw) However I do want to sell the engines ,if the engines I,m after (cummins 480,s ) are resonable prices,(I,m waiting for a price quote )
The Isotta,s V6 engines are very old ,the one I have is from 1986 ,and produce 450 HP @ 3100 rpm.
In some Italian websitesyou can find them often for sale .
A.J
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Sounds interesting - let me know if you want to sell them and how much for!
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20-03-2009, 09:55 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sterling
I have them for my boat (baja 40 outlaw)
A.J
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Beware of waves.
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20-03-2009, 05:52 PM
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Senior Member
Country: netherlands
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Occupation: truck repair
Interests: fast boats/porches
Boat name: bernico cat
Boat make: bernico 26 cat 2x 2,5,s
Engines: merc,s 2,5 EFI,s
Cruising area: ijselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Posts: 382
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Beware of waves.
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Did you have had a bad experience with a 40 outlaw?
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23-03-2009, 01:20 PM
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#29
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sterling
Did you have had a bad experience with a 40 outlaw?
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I think Richard Carr broke one quite convincingly!
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23-03-2009, 01:31 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
I think Richard Carr broke one quite convincingly!
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Correct
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....tlaw#post63100
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01-04-2009, 08:47 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
here you go.....
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Assuming the ASD6's work with the 3 litre 260hp Yanmars I assume I would need a couple of gearboxes to go with all of that stuff - anyone got a recommendations or boxes?
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01-04-2009, 09:11 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Assuming the ASD6's work with the 3 litre 260hp Yanmars I assume I would need a couple of gearboxes to go with all of that stuff - anyone got a recommendations or boxes?
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The Yanmar 6BY (3.0-260) is most likely available as a I-B motor (shaft drive) complete with marine transmission.
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01-04-2009, 09:27 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
The Yanmar 6BY (3.0-260) is most likely available as a I-B motor (shaft drive) complete with marine transmission.
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02-04-2009, 01:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Assuming the ASD6's work with the 3 litre 260hp Yanmars I assume I would need a couple of gearboxes to go with all of that stuff - anyone got a recommendations or boxes?
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The ASD6's will work with the Yanmar 260's and you can go with either a ZF or Twin Disc gear box. Anything with a 1.75:1 or smaller in reduction will work (warrantied rating that is)
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02-04-2009, 07:58 AM
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#35
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatless-Again
The ASD6's will work with the Yanmar 260's and you can go with either a ZF or Twin Disc gear box. Anything with a 1.75:1 or smaller in reduction will work (warrantied rating that is)
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Done some more research and Jon is correct that the Yanmars come with boxes!
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02-04-2009, 02:30 PM
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Large member
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
Boat make: a V24 and a SLOW unstable ICE Bladerunner
Engines: 2x300 promax, 320 Volvo
Cruising area: England/France & Med
Join Date: May 2005
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How about a nice straight six? Easyer to fit in the hull.....
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02-04-2009, 03:34 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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The Yanmar 6BY is a straight six.
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02-04-2009, 04:36 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Country: netherlands
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Occupation: truck repair
Interests: fast boats/porches
Boat name: bernico cat
Boat make: bernico 26 cat 2x 2,5,s
Engines: merc,s 2,5 EFI,s
Cruising area: ijselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Posts: 382
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I have no idea about what sort speed you are looking for ,and for speeds not higher than 45 mph its probably not that important but ,be carefull with choosing the right ratio if you want to go with a surfacedrive,and diesel power,the diesel engine will not rev high,and if the ratio is deviding the crankshaft speed even more ,the propellor speed is too slow to reach the potential speed.
The bigger diameter propellor that can be choosen with a surfacedrive will not take care of the slow turning problem,the efficiency is propellor speed with surfacedrives,you need to let the drives /propellor /boat think the engine is a gasoline type high revving engine .
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02-04-2009, 05:21 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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To achieve 72mph, my Bravo1 30's are turning at just shy of 2900rpm
In the old Debenhams boat, the Sabre Marathon's turned @ 2450rpm, through a 1.5:1 step-up gearbox (3675rpm) propelled it to just over 90mph (on ASD8's) can't remember the pitch, but they were ferkin big Rolla's.
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02-04-2009, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member
Country: netherlands
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Occupation: truck repair
Interests: fast boats/porches
Boat name: bernico cat
Boat make: bernico 26 cat 2x 2,5,s
Engines: merc,s 2,5 EFI,s
Cruising area: ijselmeer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mijdrecht/holland
Posts: 382
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
To achieve 72mph, my Bravo1 30's are turning at just shy of 2900rpm
In the old Debenhams boat, the Sabre Marathon's turned @ 2450rpm, through a 1.5:1 step-up gearbox (3675rpm) propelled it to just over 90mph (on ASD8's) can't remember the pitch, but they were ferkin big Rolla's.
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Could you give some more specs from that boat ?
such as length,wide ,weight etc what HP engines ,sort engines .
I have a set ASD8,s too , and use the 2 speed ZF,s with 1,30 in 1 th gear and 1:1 in second ,the 440 yanmars are turning 3400 max ,I,m going to turn up the fuel on the yanmars to +- 500 HP each ,and hope to see 80 mph with the 40 outlaw (poker run race layup ) I too have some real nasty Rolla,s 28 pitch 6 blades ,and a set Helices Radice 4 blade 26 ,s
Wish I could be turning those to 3400 rpm
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