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15-10-2007, 10:56 PM
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Ross i'd use the "search" facility on this forum, and do some reading!
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15-10-2007, 11:10 PM
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Boat make: Phantom 23
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Capt, did you manage to get the graffix in the post
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15-10-2007, 11:22 PM
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nope
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16-10-2007, 03:31 AM
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21-10-2007, 10:21 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Korteland was an agent of Phantom. I don't believe that they weren't aware the tooling was for sale. I will ask Steve Baker tomorrow.
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Spoke at length today with Steve Baker, the tooling was offered to Jan Korteland, when he came over to collect a new boat from Steve. (possibly the last) He apparently had a customer with him, Steve commented that the fella (Jans customer) seemed 'well heeled' and thought he may be more than just a customer, maybe even involved in Jans business, but wasn't sure.
The tooling and rights for the 21 & 23 were offered for the same sum that Trio/Crompton later paid. Korteland declined the offer, and it would appear, chose the splashing route instead.
So in conclusion, it appears that time has blured the memory, and the story of a failed crusade to recover the holly grail(s) from an empty Sittingbourne factory isn't quite accurate.
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21-10-2007, 10:45 PM
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i have moulds 4 the 16 and 18 phantoms not sure if they are original came with a job lot
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21-10-2007, 10:56 PM
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thats interesting. I assume there would have (at somestage) been duplicate moulds for the more popular models?
Jonny?
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21-10-2007, 10:58 PM
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numbskull
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No.
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21-10-2007, 11:00 PM
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easy on the detail Jon!
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22-10-2007, 09:34 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
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Originally Posted by skull666
i have moulds 4 the 16 and 18 phantoms not sure if they are original came with a job lot
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Their not!
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22-10-2007, 01:32 PM
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Large member
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
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Could we refine some detail here?
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22-10-2007, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr
Their not!
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how do you know
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22-10-2007, 05:24 PM
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numbskull
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Only one set of P16 moulds, and one set of P18 moulds existed at the factory.
They now both belong to Clive Jones who trades as PhantomUK
Therefore, any other moulds that exist, didn't come from the factory.
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22-10-2007, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skull666
i have moulds 4 the 16 and 18 phantoms not sure if they are original came with a job lot
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It would seem very unlikely that the person selling the "Job Lot" would overlook the fact that they were selling genuine Phantom moulds as this information would surely help the achieved sale price considerably.
Ill let you into an old secret here, "you get ought for nowt".
Now im not teaching you to suck eggs here but in all my years of International trading in all kinds of goods, i have never once obtained more than i had paid for! And yet i still manage to make a living.
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22-10-2007, 05:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnip1
It would seem very unlikely that the person selling the "Job Lot" would overlook the fact that they were selling genuine Phantom moulds as this information would surely help the achieved sale price considerably.
Ill let you into an old secret here, "you get ought for nowt".
Now im not teaching you to suck eggs here but in all my years of International trading in all kinds of goods, i have never once obtained more than i had paid for! And yet i still manage to make a living.
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didnt buy the job lot 4 these moulds it was all or nothing got a phantom 18 with race deck cut it up last month a sailing thing cutting that up and loads of other crap the 80kgs of carbon was the steal
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22-10-2007, 05:54 PM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skull666
the 80kgs of carbon was the steal
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80kgs
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22-10-2007, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
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the 80kgs of carbon was the steal
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Good on yer.
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22-10-2007, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
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Good on yer.
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yea it comes in handy 4 honda 225 rear covers as they get trashed when they roll you may have guest i've been busy this season
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22-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skull666
yea it comes in handy 4 honda 225 rear covers as they get trashed when they roll you may have guest i've been busy this season
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You not racing anymore?
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22-10-2007, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
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You not racing anymore?
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next year got a drive in another team 4 the season but would like 2 get my boat out there it needs a new engine doing round britain as well
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