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08-04-2009, 02:39 PM
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#161
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Engine tester
Country: united kingdom
Location: Southend on Sea
Occupation: Construction
Interests: Gin & Women
Boat name: motorvator
Boat make: Revenger San Marino / Sunseeker Camargue 46 / Phantom 18/19/600
Engines: 502 mercruiser / Detroit 550s / 115 ProXS / Anything Borrowed
Cruising area: Thames, Southend
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southend on Sea
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Originally Posted by Jim Brooker
I re-rig that 40 Planatec complere 5 time's the cost who know's lot's, Martin is on about buying one pair of drives, we always had 6 complete sets. as for the 46 Cougar I am not going to say but your 200k is a drop in the ocean
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Jim,
Martin's only expecting one or two races a season so one pair of drives should do. He can't exactly change them halfway through CTC. Petrols should be kinder to them I guess but RB 2012 different story of course.
Those Sabres were only 1200lbs? That's surprised me, so he's only looking to save 250 - 300 kgs? Still a chunk of weight but not as much as I expected.
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08-04-2009, 02:42 PM
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#162
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Brooker
The first one TigerShark the 46 you had big problems with bolting the engines down you couldn't get down the side of the motor it all had to be done from the top, you have seen how the engines when into the boat, the took a long time to rig that boat.
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It was bad enough with the V8s! a horrid thing to work on.
Spent way too many hours hanging upside down in that engine bay, feeling like me head was gonna burst. especially the fwd engine, between the tanks.
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10-04-2009, 12:13 PM
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#163
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Yateley
Boat name: Lightning
Boat make: Fountain 33 Lightning
Engines: Twin 496 ho
Cruising area: Poole
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yateley
Posts: 100
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14-04-2009, 10:35 AM
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#164
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Registered User
Location: New Forest
Occupation: Still building boats
Boat make: Whats in stock
Engines: Big
Cruising area: Everywhere
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Location: New Forest
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Those Sabres were only 1200lbs?
I remembered I still have an old Sabre leaflet. The Marathons weighed 1820lbs plus drives.
Both boats we fitted with Marathons, we used ASD8 Arnesons to avoid the need for Speedmaster rebuilds.
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14-04-2009, 10:57 AM
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#165
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Jeff, those specs don't appear to include the lock-up torque converters either, so add a good few lbs for them.
I too thought 1200lbs sounded very light, but didn't feel qualified to question. (1200 = 544 kilos. 1800 = 816 kilos) A BBC is IRO 400 kilos depending on spec.
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14-04-2009, 05:01 PM
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#166
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Hampshire
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Have just discussed delivery with he UK agent/distributer and they confirmed the price including VAT and Import Duty as being £15,672.00 at the current exchange rate..
The only down side is my props wont fit they have to be XR Hubs - whatever that is... but you can bet your bottom dollar they will be a small fortune
Delivery from the States is not too bad - 14 days but have requested delivery mid to late June
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14-04-2009, 05:49 PM
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#167
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Registered User
Location: Bournemouth
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 391
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bus Pass
Those Sabres were only 1200lbs?
I remembered I still have an old Sabre leaflet. The Marathons weighed 1820lbs plus drives.
Both boats we fitted with Marathons, we used ASD8 Arnesons to avoid the need for Speedmaster rebuilds.
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I've taken the liberty of forwarding that attachment to Chris Kaye who's shows up running at 124.24mph. I sure he'll remember the run!
Regards
Mark
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14-04-2009, 06:06 PM
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#168
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Maybe not - I think that XR hubs are just standard fat shaft flow torque. The konrads could be a result as far as props go, you can now run bravos, maximus, etc - all the standard props.
Anyway, the old gant chart looks to be in the shit. Thank god ms-project lets you re-baseline.
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Originally Posted by Pash 1
Have just discussed delivery with he UK agent/distributer and they confirmed the price including VAT and Import Duty as being £15,672.00 at the current exchange rate..
The only down side is my props wont fit they have to be XR Hubs - whatever that is... but you can bet your bottom dollar they will be a small fortune
Delivery from the States is not too bad - 14 days but have requested delivery mid to late June
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14-04-2009, 06:22 PM
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#169
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Maybe not - I think that XR hubs are just standard fat shaft flow torque. The konrads could be a result as far as props go, you can now run bravos, maximus, etc - all the standard props.
Anyway, the old gant chart looks to be in the shit. Thank god ms-project lets you re-baseline.
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Gant Chart still ok.......
Had to re-do the cash flow forecast but fixed the base line way back when....
Critical path went out of the window ages ago... but basically still ish in a roundabout way on programme..... Client extras excluded
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14-04-2009, 06:30 PM
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#170
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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[QUOTE=Matt;154908]Maybe not - I think that XR hubs are just standard fat shaft flow torque. The konrads could be a result as far as props go, you can now run bravos, maximus, etc - all the standard props.[QUOTE]
Actually Matt I think your right, the XR Hubs could well be the Fat Shaft Flow Torque ones
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14-04-2009, 06:48 PM
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#171
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
Have just discussed delivery with he UK agent/distributer
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Is it still Dave Crawford?
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14-04-2009, 07:25 PM
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#172
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Is it still Dave Crawford?
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Pass, the chap I’m dealing with over here as an agent is David Madsen - a very helpful chap and Kurt Flachbart (Great surname) in the States
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14-04-2009, 07:30 PM
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#173
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
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Sowester used to be the agents for them, until they went tits up. A guy from Konrad did the rounds here a few years ago, met me at my shop in Poole, I believe David Sewell was with him. As far as I remember, his next stop was Crawfords, and I've always believed they took up the dealership, although I have been known to talk bollix!
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14-04-2009, 07:35 PM
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#174
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Sowester used to be the agents for them, until they went tits up. A guy from Konrad did the rounds here a few years ago, met me at my shop in Poole, I believe David Sewell was with him. As far as I remember, his next stop was Crawfords, and I've always believed they took up the dealership, although I have been known to talk bollix!
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Apparently Andy Judge used to deal with Konrad as well....
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14-04-2009, 07:37 PM
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#175
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Registered User
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Oops, got that wrong.. Just done a search on their website and the bad news is that the dealer is listed as EPS in Southampton.
Which means this project is already doubtfull!
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14-04-2009, 07:38 PM
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#176
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
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Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Oops, got that wrong.. Just done a search on their website and the bad news is that the dealer is listed as EPS in Southampton.
Which means this project is already doubtfull!
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No Tony its not them..........
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14-04-2009, 07:40 PM
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#177
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
Apparently Andy Judge used to deal with Konrad as well....
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That would have been in the Sowester Days.
Interestingly, Kurt Flachbart gave a glowing testimonial to the drives on OSO a few years ago, perhaps he did a Victor Kiamm, and liked the company so much he bought it!
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/o...rn-drives.html
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14-04-2009, 07:45 PM
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#178
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
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Location: Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
That would have been in the Sowester Days.
Interestingly, Kurt Flachbart gave a glowing testimonial to the drives on OSO a few years ago, perhaps he did a Victor Kiamm, and liked the company so much he bought it!
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The CEO is a guy called Ken Konrad, Kurt is the High Performance Sales Chappie, Now dont go telling me that the drives have to pick up a bowling ball as an acid test
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14-04-2009, 08:30 PM
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#179
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Registered User
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Mermaid in Wimborne have the Konrad on their website, JF has a contact there.
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14-04-2009, 08:33 PM
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#180
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Based on all Pash's findings, they look like a good drive for a good price. Will be v. interested to see how they run.
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