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Old 29-12-2008, 11:14 PM   #61
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Midnight Oil...

In the mild weather just before Christmas, was able to get a few hours every evening stripping the layers of paint...

My thanks to Scarron for recommending "Removall" paint stripper...it works extremely well!

Got to be over 4 degrees C, so no good trying now it's got frosty... and must be covered with polythene, edges taped-down (presumably this prevents drying-out) in approx 4 foot sections (you don't wanna do more than this at a time, anyway), left for 24-36 hours, then you lay the plastic out and gather the scrapings... amazing!

Even more amazing, if not UNBELIEVABLE... i actually read the instructions!!
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Old 30-12-2008, 01:17 AM   #62
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I don't think you'll have any any luck with them, but I might have some contacts & info that is useful to you. Will PM you.

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Going to follow-up Flying Fish's suggestion of seeing if Boghammar Marine in Sweden (great name..got to use them if i can!) can assist with a new deck... Magnum Marine were unable to help.
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Old 01-01-2009, 10:12 PM   #63
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I don't think you'll have any any luck with them, but I might have some contacts & info that is useful to you. Will PM you.
Or maybe a Arrow 28 deck can be a good start
Can be built here in Sweden! I am willing to help with contacts.

BTW This is a great project!!



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That's certainly what I was wondering! Lookin forward to meeting you in a couple of weeks!
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That's certainly what I was wondering! Lookin forward to meeting you in a couple of weeks!
Hi Matt, Happy new year!!

I'll send you an email regarding the 17 jan. I think it gona be a long but
very intresting and fun day

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Great to see those old Black & White Whiskey ghost numbers on the side!
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:17 PM   #67
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On behalf of the old man and myself, we would love to see her back on the water, especially for my dad Iain Nurse as he many memories when he raced her a while back. I am sure he has some photos somewhere in amongst all the other ones so ill dig some out soon and see if i can post some lol, as it may help with the restoration

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Found this in a 1974 Speed and Power magazine of the Cowes/Torquay/Cowes race
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Is that Pashs boat on the front cover??


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Is that Pashs boat on the front cover??


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Dug out the old 1974 programme - couple of pics of the boat. Looked great.
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Dug out the old 1974 programme - couple of pics of the boat. Looked great.
Thanks Nige... that's great ...and Will, good to hear from you! Any pics would be very much appreciated and useful too...

Matt and Mange, thanks for your all you're doing with looking into getting a deck from Sweden... this is becoming an international effort!

Finally, i am indebted to the one-and-only font of all knowledge... brilliant picture, Graham ..and thanks for permission to post!

Advert courtesy of Mr F Fish... and isn't that yellow.... well, very yellow?!!
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:25 AM   #75
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Great footage

Just been watching the '68 C-T-C... brilliant shots of UFO (still with cabin) and MMII... plus, of course, the magnificent Surfury, Telstar and Magnum Tornado...

Thankyou SO much Graham, Jon and Matt... (congratulations on ordering the Arrow, Matt - excellent stuff!)

Have acquired some old MB&Y mags that raise interesting questions.. will post if i can get my computer and scanner talking to each other again.. (they seem to have had a row and the split seems to be permanent) Have to resort to taking photos instead.

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Amazing technology...

Very grateful to Dr Ian Greatbatch and colleagues Dr Ken Field and Dr James O'Brien of Kingston Univesity for the 3D Digital scan of the magnum... quite an amazing (and expensive!) bit of kit.... It sends thousands of laser beams from fixed points and builds up a 3D image of the boat that can be rotated to look at from any angle, measured to within 1mm and (hopefully!) "fill-in the blanks" with regard to the deck and cockpit (by making a projection, using old photos etc.)

With the absence of any available drawings - Magnum Marine were unable to help - this may be the only option (unless Matt's Arrow turns-out to be of surprisingly similar dimensions!). It's going to be very useful in the meantime, as we can print-off any sections of the hull, at any point - great for making the cradle.

Thanks again to Kingston Centre for GIS !

See "Lifeboat Willy's" post:
http://www.boatmad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12726
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More shots of 3D imaging..

More pictures... it's even picked-out the oak branches in the distance. Take look at Lifeboat Willy's entry on You Tube too..
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Just a thought Ian,but if you go on to www.bananaboatco-products ,Charlie McCarthys site,it would appear that his 28ft model may well have used the Magnum 28 moulds.Look at the history parts of the site and see what you think,or `e` mail him and just say what you are trying to achieve.I`m sure he would help you out if he can.

It may be a blind alley,but who knows.
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Just a thought Ian,but if you go on to www.bananaboatco-products ,Charlie McCarthys site,it would appear that his 28ft model may well have used the Magnum 28 moulds.Look at the history parts of the site and see what you think,or `e` mail him and just say what you are trying to achieve.I`m sure he would help you out if he can.

It may be a blind alley,but who knows.
Many Thanks, Graham ...and definitely worth investigating: You're right, their 28 footer is a Magnum!

Matt has very kindly pointed me in the direction of the Arrow 830, a swedish Magnum 28 that looks very well made and good value for money.

I shall follow-up both leads and see where i get... this may be where the 3D scan can help get a deck that fits!

Thankyou both for your interest and support... it means a lot!
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Before that she was Propulser 1 (1971 J. Tussaud, Race no. 033)...but no sign of the MM Twin no.040 or even Don's lucky no.4 ..expect they've been rubbed-down long ago in all the paint jobs.
I was wrong...!

Been a long time waiting for the spars to be sawn-out for the cradle, disillusioned with the lack of support and now waiting for a crane... after removing endless layers of unsound paint, was going to leave the rather nasty pale green undercoat as a protective layer, but I got bored with waiting and decided to see what the gel coat was like... Pretty poor, as you can imagine, but then...

There are shadows on the gel coat, outlining the 040.. log-on and take a look at the pictures. If (like me!) your eyesight is fading, I've highlighted with chalk to show where the colour changes.

The 9 is from "Black & White Whiskey" (910) days, the 3 from 033 of Propulser
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