Thunderbird in storage for 33 years - Page 6

Jon Fuller · 07-09-2010, 04:34 PM

Come and show us. You're the one throwing down the challenge of ability. Otherwise it's all just more MOUTH.

Personally, I think you probably suffer with delusions of adequacy.

But remember, you won't be allowed huge capacity & hp, not in E class anyway. You'll be limited to a max of 6.5 litres (400ci) of STOCK mainstream production engine(s) (total).

I'm looking forward to it already.

Watching you scrape all the egg off your face when 50+ pics emerge from GS, CD etc, showing you facing every which fkkin way ha ha. I could post dozens of pics & vid of us flying straight n level, look at my avatar.
Selective posting is easy, even for an American.

Captain Chaos · 07-09-2010, 04:50 PM

dont get too brave Jonny, some of us are hoping its like a mill pond next year.

Jon Fuller · 07-09-2010, 05:02 PM

Some of the 3' chop from last weekend....

Ben · 07-09-2010, 05:32 PM

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Selective posting is easy, even for an American.

Works for me.

Delta28 · 07-09-2010, 06:06 PM

Anyone got a better version of these? ...i.e. with more sea?

This is Al Copeland's "Popeyes" in the '91 race

Sorry, don't know who to credit them to... They're from the 1986 and 2001 C-T-C Programmes

FLYING FISH · 07-09-2010, 06:22 PM

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Some of the 3' chop from last weekend....

And that`s a small chop.Out in the bay it looked a lot worse.

Mr.Shead used to say,even back in the seventies the U.S. just won`t hold rough races.Now the Italians with their Viareggio race are completely mad.Look at the Don Shead Documentary in the Gallery.in which the bolster collasped,breaking Don`s leg,Sound familiar Mr.Bontoft.

FLYING FISH · 07-09-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta28

Anyone got a better version of these? ...i.e. with more sea?

This is Al Copeland's "Popeyes" in the '91 race

Sorry, don't know who to credit them to... They're from the 1986 and 2001 C-T-C Programmes

If you look at Powerboats 1971,the home movie in the Gallery,there are some sequences shot from Anvil of the boats returning from Torquay in a gale,with boats sliding down waves and stuffing,that`s about the biggest I`ve seen.
Aussy racing is the place for big seas though.

Ben · 07-09-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta28

Anyone got a better version of these? ...i.e. with more sea?

This is Al Copeland's "Popeyes" in the '91 race

Sorry, don't know who to credit them to... They're from the 1986 and 2001 C-T-C Programmes

It's from Searace. Here's about the best scan I could do of the pic.

Crouse's caption comment is interesting.

DAREDEVIL · 07-09-2010, 07:00 PM

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Some of the 3' chop from last weekend....

jon, come on..max 4 ,,i give u that but no 6 footers in that pic at all ...u are like some guys here going out when its snotty and call it 6-8 foot seas..lol

That is not close to a 6 footer...on the 400CI u got me, sorry my boat will maybe do 50 MPH with a 400CI engine and my Speedmaster so no sence in running in that class...

And if i had the money i would realy come over !!!!

Jon Fuller · 07-09-2010, 07:45 PM

Our boat, from top of screen, to bottom of V is cerca 5'. If you can't see 6' from the crest of that swell to the trough, well, whatever.
All I know is, 'almost' all yank boats that apparently work fine in the good old US of A, fall to bits in 5 mins trying to race here. there are exceptions, but we see plenty of broken yank plastic here. P1 said it all, virtually all the US boated teams were doing MAJOR structural repairs after every rough race in Europe. This has to mean (and back up just about everyones opinion) that in the US, races simply don't happen when it gets rough (as apposed to here)
You can pass judgement on all the pics of sea, boats running, and video you please, but until one of you flat water pussies comes over and shows us otherwise, we're happing thinking its true.

And if you haven't raced here, or done any boating in these waters, you aint qualified to judge how challenging they are. I know a good few racers who've done it the other way round and without exception, they say you lot 'can' races as soon it's little more than a chop.

GO FIGURE.

Ciao · 07-09-2010, 07:55 PM

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jon, come on..max 4 ,,i give u that but no 6 footers in that pic at all ...u are like some guys here going out when its snotty and call it 6-8 foot seas..lol

That is not close to a 6 footer...on the 400CI u got me, sorry my boat will maybe do 50 MPH with a 400CI engine and my Speedmaster so no sence in running in that class...

And if i had the money i would realy come over !!!!

Speak to your neighbour in Florida John Henry Falk, who was in Cowes for the event - He will give you his opinion on your racing and what happens here.

DAREDEVIL · 07-09-2010, 09:26 PM

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Speak to your neighbour in Florida John Henry Falk, who was in Cowes for the event - He will give you his opinion on your racing and what happens here.

I heard the designer of the 39 Phantom was over there ...never heard of mr. falk, but Will Smith is my next door neighbor..although he actually says what u want to hear and not really how things are..lol

Ciao · 07-09-2010, 09:37 PM

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..never heard of mr. falkl

These people have.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ell-party.html

DAREDEVIL · 07-09-2010, 10:08 PM

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These people have.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ell-party.html

yeah,,they are old enuff to be my dad ! lol...sorry guys

Jon Fuller · 07-09-2010, 10:13 PM

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I heard the designer of the 39 Phantom was over there ...never heard of mr. falk, but Will Smith is my next door neighbor..

Indeed, he seems a very nice/fun guy. Had a good chat with him

Black_Tornado · 07-09-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

All I know is, 'almost' all yank boats that apparently work fine in the good old US of A, fall to bits in 5 mins trying to race here. there are exceptions, but we see plenty of broken yank plastic here. P1 said it all, virtually all the US boated teams were doing MAJOR structural repairs after every rough race in Europe. This has to mean (and back up just about everyones opinion) that in the US, races simply don't happen when it gets rough (as apposed to here)

GO FIGURE.

Jon, I do not think you did a real analysis in saying that whenever the U.S. boats are racing in rough waters in Europe went in pieces.
In the offshore age the boats were in Europe and triumphed without problems even in rough water.
It was a rule not a exception .
No coincidence that those bloody plastic Ciggy are statistically boats that have won more even and especially in rough water all over in the world.

DAREDEVIL · 07-09-2010, 11:48 PM

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Indeed, he seems a very nice/fun guy. Had a good chat with him

so does that mean US PHANTOM met GB PHANTOM...lol thats funny..hahaha

DAREDEVIL · 07-09-2010, 11:49 PM

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Jon, I do not think you did a real analysis in saying that whenever the U.S. boats are racing in rough waters in Europe went in pieces.
In the offshore age the boats were in Europe and triumphed without problems even in rough water.
It was a rule not a exception .
No coincidence that those bloody plastic Ciggy are statistically boats that have won more even and especially in rough water all over in the world.

Thanks BT...at least u know whats right....lol

Captain Chaos · 08-09-2010, 12:37 AM

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Indeed, he seems a very nice/fun guy. Had a good chat with him

most of which was explaining the doubling of the no. of forward bulkheads the 39 got before "vee" was allowed to have it back in blighty.

sommink like 15 in total werent it?

DAREDEVIL · 08-09-2010, 02:57 AM

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most of which was explaining the doubling of the no. of forward bulkheads the 39 got before "vee" was allowed to have it back in blighty.

sommink like 15 in total werent it?

I think that # is correct. he beefed it up a lot !!!!! BUT IT WAS ALWAYS AN AWSOME BOAT !!!!!!!