Also , everyone is welcome in KW to join.....even britts...lol would be cool jon if u could come here with your boat and race with us !!!
A lovely thought, but Swipes would be totaly uncompetitive on your circuit. It was built/rigged/setup specificaly for Marathon, in fact, it was built for the 1500 mile Round Britain Race of 2008, from which Marathon class was born. 8 legs of an average 200 miles, some 240 miles. so very much an armchair ride, long range, and not the fastest thing in the world. All about average speed in all conditions, which despite your comments, the boat has proven to be quite good at.
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A lovely thought, but Swipes would be totaly uncompetitive on your circuit. It was built/rigged/setup specificaly for Marathon, in fact, it was built for the 1500 mile Round Britain Race of 2008, from which Marathon class was born. 8 legs of an average 200 miles, some 240 miles. so very much an armchair ride, long range, and not the fastest thing in the world. All about average speed in all conditions, which despite your comments, the boat has proven to be quite good at.
Jon, u missunderstood me..i never said your boat was not good !!!!!
But no matter what condition of sea u have ,,there is always a way of avoiding stuffing it !!!! be it throttle error or set up...u should know !!
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You've never throttled a boat with 100hp/litre diesels in have you? I can tell.
Big cube gas motors are lovely, and give you shed loads of pitch control at your fingertips with their response and sheer power, but you cannot compare that with highly tuned diesels with 2+ seconds of turbo lag. Those lovely, big, powerful gas motors don't fit our class, and what you can have would be absolutely f*cking useless in a boat the size of ours. you really need to come and see what we're doing here to understand, and idealy, try to compete with us, with what you see as an ideal setup based on your thinking. you might just be surprised.
Not claiming to be anything special at setting up, or throttling, just saying that the systems employed and the sea states involved (despite your deference) may not be what you're used to.
I've also been in a good few seas where keeping the nose out of the oggin, from stationary, up to whatever speed you can achieve, has been impossible. Maybe American water is more bouyant!
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Jon, u missunderstood me..i never said your boat was not good !!!!!
But no matter what condition of sea u have ,,there is always a way of avoiding stuffing it !!!! be it throttle error or set up...u should know !!
You said RINGS where wannabe trash,MIKE RING just so happens to be the builder of probably the most seaworthy boats in the u.k.at the mo and has been building british sport/raceboats for the past 40 odd years with thousands of boats built for the u.k. market,how many of your AEROTEKS are there? As i said in my post i would happily match a ring of similar length and h.p. against yours in the rough anytime,doubt that will ever happen as you readily admit your skint and cant afford to come over here,thats why you have to have a 2nd job selling Lucozade
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You've never throttled a boat with 100hp/litre diesels in have you? I can tell.
Big cube gas motors are lovely, and give you shed loads of pitch control at your fingertips with their response and sheer power, but you cannot compare that with highly tuned diesels with 2+ seconds of turbo lag. Those lovely, big, powerful gas motors don't fit our class, and what you can have would be absolutely f*cking useless in a boat the size of ours. you really need to come and see what we're doing here to understand, and idealy, try to compete with us, with what you see as an ideal setup based on your thinking. you might just be surprised.
Not claiming to be anything special at setting up, or throttling, just saying that the systems employed and the sea states involved (despite your deference) may not be what you're used to.
I've also been in a good few seas where keeping the nose out of the oggin, from stationary, up to whatever speed you can achieve, has been impossible. Maybe American water is more bouyant!
mmmhhhhh....i did not even know u had diesels in there...so thank u for elighten me !
and your right, the only diesels i ran where in a truck ..lol
Lesson taken !!
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A lovely thought, but Swipes would be totaly uncompetitive on your circuit. It was built/rigged/setup specificaly for Marathon, in fact, it was built for the 1500 mile Round Britain Race of 2008, from which Marathon class was born. 8 legs of an average 200 miles, some 240 miles. so very much an armchair ride, long range, and not the fastest thing in the world. All about average speed in all conditions, which despite your comments, the boat has proven to be quite good at.
Having just done nigh on 200 miles of sea bashing (plus 100 miles of Cowes 100),I can just see JF studying the KW course details.
Race 1 - 41.8 miles
Race 2 - 41.8 miles
Race 3 - 79.0 miles
You said RINGS where wannabe trash,MIKE RING just so happens to be the builder of probably the most seaworthy boats in the u.k.at the mo and has been building british sport/raceboats for the past 40 odd years with thousands of boats built for the u.k. market,how many of your AEROTEKS are there? As i said in my post i would happily match a ring of similar length and h.p. against yours in the rough anytime,doubt that will ever happen as you readily admit your skint and cant afford to come over here,thats why you have to have a 2nd job selling Lucozade
lol...u are funny,,, i dont work anything at all ..so whats your point ??
and i did not mean they are trash...but i dont think its a true OFFSHORE boat ..for my leyking anyways !!
READ BETWEEN THE LINES BEFORE U AIM !!
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Going back to wave height, and that pic I posted, just to add. The boat is roughly 5' from keel to screen top. we're probably there, with our heads level with the crest of the swell to our port rear, and there's at least that height again between the keel and the bottom of the swell, minimum. I make that a conservative 10' trough to peek.
The pics are taken from a bit obove sea level, which doesn't help the perspective. They 'look their size' when viewed from sea level.
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Going back to wave height, and that pic I posted, just to add. The boat is roughly 5' from keel to screen top. we're probably there, with our heads level with the crest of the swell to our port rear, and there's at least that height again between the keel and the bottom of the swell, minimum. I make that a conservative 10' trough to peek.
The pics are taken from a bit obove sea level, which doesn't help the perspective. They 'look their size' when viewed from sea level.
i still say maximum 5's ..but ok ..what ever u say , hey u where there !!
PEACE !!???
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