Interesting Comment on H.225

[skull666]

Originally Posted by Foolish

what was it for ?

driving like a c*nt

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by skull666

driving like a c*nt

Well if you watch the Cowes episode you guys won't miss it! We couldn't see the first mark on the start run.. Got a great start but nav decided it was a good idea to aim for Shelly and she was on the outside. Great footage from the onboard. I'll post it on YouTube sometime. Titled "how NOT to start a 225 race'! You guys will love it, more kicking bait! Bumped the Germans and crossed in front of 8 boats. But you have to be quick to be in front of them...ah! If only we drove in a straight line!

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by skull666

driving like a c*nt

Mind you skull I did take a kickin (as newbies do) for mistaken identity...there's something in the colour yellow!! Even if it it does cover only half the boat!

[skull666]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Mind you skull I did take a kickin (as newbies do) for mistaken identity...there's something in the colour yellow!! Even if it it does cover only half the boat!

i loved it, the best bit was you telling david baker it was me,he`s havin a go a me and i dont know what the feck he is going on about we was at the back in the start lap

[verytricky]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

Actually, on a personal level, I couldn't care less if the Honda lot wanna kill themselves driving into, or over each other, so my comments re: safety are probably sounding a bit off the mark from where I actually stand.
My only (selfish) concern is that when it happens (which I'm sure it will) and the lawyers, and do gooders get hold of it, and all the footage from over the years is used, the courts will have a field day with it, and they will make a good case that bad practice was encouraged. Powerboat racing 'generally' will pay the price, not just the mighty Honda class.

Powerboat racing will become uninsurable, ..end of. Then you can 'gob off' all you like about how great you all looked.

How come when you say it you are not called a **** that nobody likes? It is the same thing I said innit?

Looking at the Video - which is the only Honda racing I have seen - they look like they are bumper cars, and when they get thrown out, no one stops to assist, and sometimes even they drives over the competitors in the water. It is fecking dangerous, and that can not be argued. So for the good of the sport as a whole, sort it out. When you finally kill or seriously injure someone, all aspects of powerboat racing will suffer. Sorting it out now will be good for everyone.

The claim that you have more boats than any other class means you are allowed to bump each other is simply stupid.

I dont know, but I have been told of races startign with 50 boats and no collisions.

In 2004 we had 13 V24's with their aparent restricted visability going round an offshore circut with higher speeds and there was only one collision - when Ricky Hill hit Tom Powell in the middle of the race round the island! And that was an impossible place to actually have a collision, but managed it.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by verytricky

How come when you say it you are not called a **** that nobody likes? It is the same thing I said innit?

It's OK mate, they all think the same thing about me, but I'd ban em for it.

We're universally disliked, but I quite enjoy it.

[TimB-C]

Tricky I think I can safely say that is the first and only time you haven't sounded like a "****"

[ciao!]

Originally Posted by verytricky

I dont know, but I have been told of races starting with 50 boats and no collisions.

Guernsey 3C European race. 1988.

41 boats went through the start line.

No crashes, impacts etc.

We had respect for each other, from what I have seen in the Honda racing - that is clearly missing.

Whether that be filling up fuel tanks with water, throwing other competitors into the drink (after the race), the whole thing looks like a s*** show.

Just remember one thing, 99 % of your spectators can't afford to race boats.

You are "role models".

For Christ sake set a good example.

[skull666]

did all those boats have the same engines, roll model that abe the 225 boat then

[BluFin]

Brighton 1980 - 62 starters
There was a poole bay opening race with 50 cant recall the year got a write up somewhere
Cancer around 60 Boats

[ciao!]

Originally Posted by skull666

did all those boats have the same engines, roll model that abe the 225 boat then

I think I uderstood that post.

We were all running the same engines available to us -so bog standard Mercury engines.

Hull shapes varied.

[ciao!]

Originally Posted by BluFin

Brighton 1980 - 62 starters
There was a poole bay opening race with 50 cant recall the year got a write up somewhere
Cancer around 60 Boats

Loved the PDF - saved me having to go to Basildon!

[Scream-it.com]

Some of you guys know better than to winge at one another. You should sit in the bar of the local Royal Yacht club and listen to a whole group of people that detest all of us! WE are all on "The Dark Side"; stink boats that should never be allowed out. I sailed into Guersey whilst the yachties watched and laughed at a power boy as he ran out of fuel and was heading rapidly toward the harbour wall in a serious blow...hmm

Now! Back to history and danger and irresponsibility...

Try single-handed round the world... or Fastnet or Sydney - Hobart or the history of The Round Britain and Ireland and you will find a multitude of death, lost at sea, heroics like Pete Goss rescuing somebody in a big blow in the Southern Ocean or Gerry Roufs I think it was who just dissappeared off the planet...and so it goes on and on and on. These are the leaders in Yachting and I bet any top single hander won't get banned from a race for cat napping on watch!!!!! And that IS against the basic rules of the Sea!

Sorry to harp on but the whole nation holds these people up as heroes...but I can't help but sit here as see such a fuss about 18 crews in boats that are so similar and highly competitive? Touch wood nobody gets injured but isn't the adrenalin based on the proximity to danger?

Yah! I'm starting to think this powerboat racing scene is for the faint hearted. You get a choice in life: The difference between doing and not doing is doing! Like voting if you don't vote don't complain!!

Yeeeehaaaaa!!!! I'm on a roll...oh no I didn't mean roll ...really!!

[Jon Fuller]

You know what, I really think you just don't get it. Quit being a wannabe superhero.

So, let's just agree to disagree.

[Scream-it.com]

And more....Have any of you ever been in a round the cans race in Cowes week? Jeepers they try to kill one another out there!! Screamin, shouting, protesting ..it's madness! The RYA should ban yacht racing in my view it's blinking dangerous... and totally irresponsible

[Jon Fuller]

like i said....

I couldn't give a rats arse if you all bang into each other.

I couldn't give a rats arse if you kill each other.

The problem is, when the inevitable happens, the grossely unpopular and so-not-green wasteful sport of powerboat racing will get torn appart by all & sundry, the lawyers, the QHM, the green lot... will rush in and jump on the band waggon declaring how "stupid, irresponsible and wastefull it is anyway".

Do we really need to give them the perfect vehicle for that crusade?

All this stuff about 'it can't be helped' and thinking you're the first ever powerboat class to have any competitive spirit which drives this is such bollox! get over yourselves FFS.

I shaln't comment further on this, it's pointless.

[ciao!]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Some of you guys know better than to winge at one another. You should sit in the bar of the local Royal Yacht club and listen to a whole group of people that detest all of us! WE are all on "The Dark Side"; stink boats that should never be allowed out. I sailed into Guersey whilst the yachties watched and laughed at a power boy as he ran out of fuel and was heading rapidly toward the harbour wall in a serious blow...hmm

Now! Back to history and danger and irresponsibility...

Try single-handed round the world... or Fastnet or Sydney - Hobart or the history of The Round Britain and Ireland and you will find a multitude of death, lost at sea, heroics like Pete Goss rescuing somebody in a big blow in the Southern Ocean or Gerry Roufs I think it was who just dissappeared off the planet...and so it goes on and on and on. These are the leaders in Yachting and I bet any top single hander won't get banned from a race for cat napping on watch!!!!! And that IS against the basic rules of the Sea!

Sorry to harp on but the whole nation holds these people up as heroes...but I can't help but sit here as see such a fuss about 18 crews in boats that are so similar and highly competitive? Touch wood nobody gets injured but isn't the adrenalin based on the proximity to danger?

Yah! I'm starting to think this powerboat racing scene is for the faint hearted. You get a choice in life: The difference between doing and not doing is doing! Like voting if you don't vote don't complain!!

Yeeeehaaaaa!!!! I'm on a roll...oh no I didn't mean roll ...really!!

What on earth is that post all about?

I am starting to think think my mate "Kinfast" wrote that, but I know better.

Surely the point of this thread is to express concerns on Honda racing?

"You get a choice in life: The difference between doing and not doing is doing! Like voting if you don't vote don't complain!!".

Well I have done, got the trophies, certificates etc. to prove it.

[delboy36]

i actually think i might campaign for fences along the fairways at major golf tournaments cause if that ball hits you it could kill you.......ive seen it on tv and it looks well dangerous

[Wild Thing]

Reading this thread from an outsiders or sponsors point of view it is not a good reflection on the sport or forthcoming events. Thread has ran and ran now getting boring, lock it down JF

[Grenville]

Originally Posted by delboy36

i actually think i might campaign for fences along the fairways at major golf tournaments cause if that ball hits you it could kill you.......ive seen it on tv and it looks well dangerous

Yes, I noted that and regarding setting an example, all the player does is slam his club on the ground.............it would be funny though - a promotional vid just showing people being hit with golf balls.......