Round Ireland Race

[Johnny Rocket]

Originally Posted by timtap

I'm just watching the Tracker system in Ireland seeing a convoy of vessels including Cinzano hacking along between Dublin and Galway at speeds of 66 and 86 knots . A Road race too ?
http://www.aroundireland.org/map/map/index.html

Seems to be the srong map page. Try this one instead:
http://www.dkdsecurity.co.uk/trackap...ndireland/map/

[Cookee]

They're off again - the tracking system seems to be jumping about a bit but it looks like Cinzano and the Buzzi have taken off leaving the others behind a bit - on the way to Bangor!

[TheMutzNuts]

Looks like Kilcullen Galway Flyer has problems and gone for cover.
They're travelling at 5 knotts.

Cinzano is now leading, travelling at around 30 knotts.
Must be a bit bumpy out there.

[CUV 1]

Interesting thread with all the talk of rules etc. Not sure why the UIM is brought into the argument cos they actually had nothing to do with the rules just rubber stamping the Brit/RYA proposal without change (except cats under organisers discretion).

What we have is what the UK wanted.

From the outside I can see the need for clear rules looking at "production type boats" but from both sides of the pond.

But it is still important to allow Mr big and wealthy to run what they brung - whether it be a Buzzi, an American or a Victory type. The big money and names brings sponsors and networks missing from powerboat racing. Maybe one of these would win overall but so what - owners organisers of the tv program need to direct how they want to present the race.

Looking at the Ireland entry something is not right, I would suggest something more manageable and media friendly maybe Liverpool/IOM/Dublin and return. Just an opinion that some plans are to big for teams to enter regularly.

Otherwise if you want more even racing try X cat different boats lengths weight, manufacturers but one engine package, or 2 litre or V24 all have competitive racing.

Marathon is what it is endurance - keep the production standard, but let an open run what you brung in.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by CUV 1

What we have is what the UK wanted.

Thats not strictly true, you see the set of rules put to the UIM, were not quite the set of rules that left the RYA Technical Working Group.

The addition of cats wasn't wanted either, but the UK man on site at the meeting didn't fight our corner when the simple question 'why not allow cats?' was asked, even though much discussion had taken place before and the UK 'man' knew full well cats were not part of the UK Marathon plan.

Don't agree with the run what ya brung principle. OK for outright records, etc, but an ongoing series needs a set of rules throughout the classes, so year on year titles mean something. Run what ya brung is just a cash pissing contest. Also, from the outset, all the usual boring speak about pleasing sponsors, and networks was kept out of Marathon, coz we know they don't exist. Marathon was about the competitor entering a sport with rules and courses he/she likes, paying for it and not attempting to please a non existant mythical cash cow with compromised rules/courses.

JMHO

[CUV 1]

Not sure where they got changed but they were the rules presented to the UIM as a UK proposal and unchanged at the UIM Cominoff meetings. Sponsors or financial supporters are only going to come from within the sport as we are not commercially viable at present just cos someone may spend a small fortune to win so what at least you have them in powerboat racing not paris dakar or whatever. or steam car projects etc. The sport cannot sustain a future on entry money alone.

I think the marathan concept does have a place and should not be dumbed down with short courses but maybe round Ireland and other options this year is to much hence the entry again to raise interest PR TV etc something more manageable like Liverpool Dublin Glasgow would rattle media interest.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by CUV 1

Not sure where they got changed but they were the rules presented to the UIM as a UK proposal and unchanged at the UIM Cominoff meetings.

Yes, I know. but the fact remains, they differ from what left TWG. also, besides Cats, there seems to have been a load of small additions, such as race number prefix's etc that were not there before. The RYA has moved many other goalposts for Marathon, with Measurement certs, licence changes etc. What seemed to be a very popular concept at the outset, due in part to it's simplicity, that appeared to be drawing folk out from previous retirement, is already looking to be flagging, due I think to the red tape and added cost that as ever, accompanies the RYA and swallows up everyones energy and interest.

[Tremlett 15]

Originally Posted by Cookee

They're off again -on the way to Bangor!

just back home ( Bangor ) after a few days holiday on the North coast, looks a if Cinzano should be first boat here ( Bangor ), current conditions in Bangor are light rain & misty, I will call down to marina & try to get a few pics.

Conditions this morning around the North coast were rain, misty & lumpy.

T 15

[hunton69]

Looks like cinzano has made it to Bangor in around 4 hours

[Tremlett 15]

some pics from this afternoom, ( was a wee bit misty for the finish )

[Tremlett 15]

a few more from this afternoon

[Tremlett 15]

after a wee wait..............4th boat made it to Bangor

[Tremlett 15]

some evening repairs & lift-outs

[Carl]

why is cinzano now b558

[peterunwin]

Originally Posted by Carl

why is cinzano now b558

Hi Carl,
Because of the oxygen thieves who now make the rules!!! i think they are called the MIU?

[Numb Nuts]

Originally Posted by peterunwin

Hi Carl,
Because of the oxygen thieves who now make the rules!!! i think they are called the MIU?

No Peter you silly boy it's because Cinzano is 1.3 litre, oh hang on them Ilmors must be more than that...

[Mrs Smillie]

I love the pics tremlett that is the first time i have seen any of the new paintwork as Eric kept promising to takr some but i think he was a bit busy getting boat ready so i will let him off this time!

[Mrs Smillie]

Originally Posted by Ciao

Probably the best amusement has just arrived in town - Mr. Smilie

What are you saying about my hubby John!

[Cookee]

Any news on why the Buzzi stopped?

[TheMutzNuts]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Any news on why the Buzzi stopped?

Just sent Micky Nick of Team Cinzano a text asking.

Will post reply..... assuming he's not lost his phone again!