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03-01-2010, 08:42 PM
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#121
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Quick (and possibly stupid question for you).
In the last photo you put up of the stbd engine being trial fitted, it seems to overhang the central engine bearer? How does the port motor therefore fit in alongside it??
I'm sure this is a stupid question and I'm sorry if it is, it's been a long day!
Amazing build by the way, lovely to see such care being put into building a boat with nothing but the best parts.
All the best,
James
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03-01-2010, 08:51 PM
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#122
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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They're being staggered I believe...
Peter you appear to have a marina in your garden, stop making me jealous!!!
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03-01-2010, 09:07 PM
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#123
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Engineering
Boat make: None, boo!
Engines: Turbines mainly!
Cruising area: The inside of my workshop!
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,646
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*slaps hand against forehead*
Muppet. I'm a complete bloomin muppet. I'm going to bed now before i embarrass myself further!
I'm also very jealous of the marina garden, and the boats, and the quad, and the holden.....
James
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03-01-2010, 09:44 PM
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#124
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 557
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
*slaps hand against forehead*
Muppet. I'm a complete bloomin muppet. I'm going to bed now before i embarrass myself further!
I'm also very jealous of the marina garden, and the boats, and the quad, and the holden.....
James
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Hi James,
PAUL E is correct the engines are staggered at 20'' centres the starboard one has a plug in transmission & the port engine a drive line transmission & is connected to the transom shield with a carbon fibre drive shaft. Will post pictures soon of a mock up to give you a better idea.
Have been watching the Revenger build with interest & i think you have made the right decision to stick with it what about sticking a blown alloy small block in it? as it would give the hull a much easier life as it is so much lighter but still has plenty of power.
All the best
Peter
P.S.: Port Hamble is a wonderful place to live, wouldn't swap it for anywhere
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04-01-2010, 01:29 PM
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#125
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Pevensey Bay
Occupation: Teacher
Interests: photography
Cruising area: Pevensey Bay / Solent
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Location: Pevensey Bay
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out of interest peter, who did the seats?
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05-01-2010, 09:03 PM
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#126
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 557
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Originally Posted by Tom Stone
out of interest peter, who did the seats?
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Hi Tom,
John from Hunton has trimmed the seats, i modified the mouldings myself with parts supplied by Hunton.
Peter
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05-01-2010, 11:23 PM
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#127
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 90
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When do you feel it will be ready for water testing?
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06-01-2010, 05:48 PM
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#128
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 557
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Originally Posted by Boatless-Again
When do you feel it will be ready for water testing?
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Hi Boatless-Again,
The original launch date was to have been 3rd March as the old Cheetah was launched on this day 3years ago but the Ilmors were about 8 weeks late in arriving so although i can claw back some of the time i want the build process to be an enjoyable experience & i don't want to cut any corners, so i think a realistic date would be late April.
Peter
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06-01-2010, 08:48 PM
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#129
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
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Engine Bay Preparation
Finished off the engine bay modifications today.Dropped the centre engine bearer by 115mm for better access to engines also cut 18 4'' diameter holes carefully spaced between engine mountings to allow easy access to some of the mounting bolts & also allow free air circulation so that in the event of a fuel spill or leak the bilge fans will be able to evacuate the fumes more easily.
Peter
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09-01-2010, 06:27 PM
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#130
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 557
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Trial Fit Of Bolsters
Hi All,
Had a trial fit of the partially trimmed bolsters on Thursday so that we can sort out the padding required on the headrest & bases.Will drop in the engines during next week for a trial fit to enable fabrication of exhausts and engine mountings, we will also measure up for wiring harnesses.
Peter
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09-01-2010, 09:45 PM
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#131
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 557
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Playing In The Snow
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10-01-2010, 06:24 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I'm not one of those into health and safety but i think a crash helmet might of helped especially if kids watch
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10-01-2010, 05:10 PM
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#133
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Warsaw
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but he had a crash helmet, the woolen one:-)
Good in off-road biking and atv
I've checked that, really works
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19-01-2010, 08:18 PM
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#134
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 557
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Steering System
Hi All,
Been quite busy over the last week or so designing engine mounting supports.Awaiting quotation from carbon fibre manufacturer, also been designing steering control system which has taken quite a lot of time & effort finding appropriate components. As you probably guessed the hydraulics side of it is no problem to us at all but the electronics to control the hydraulics has proved to be the headache,but i think we are now sorted so here is a brief outline of how it will work.
Each engine is fitted with a power steering pump which will feed oil into a fully proportional directional control valve the outputs of which are connected to the steering cylinders.The electronics side will have a rotary twin track transducer mounted in the steering column & two of the hydraulic cylinders will have linear transducers both feeding information to a programmable ECU, as this is a fly by wire system we will use dual components interacting with each other to make it as safe as possible.As all parameters are programmable we will be able to change the steering ratio giving plenty of feel in the central position gradually ramping up to give better low speed maneuverability & docking manners.Also we will build in self centering so it will be much more car like to drive.I am also looking at the possibility of tabs, trims & throttles all being steering wheel mounted, so we will be constructing a bench test rig in the near future.
Peter
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19-01-2010, 08:58 PM
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#135
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
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I take it that your not concerned about this boat conforming to CE regulations then?
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19-01-2010, 10:36 PM
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#136
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Quite Near
Occupation: Don't Ask!
Interests: Racing Rubber
Boat name: Comfortably Numb
Boat make: SR9
Engines: Yanmar
Cruising area: Over there
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Quite Near
Posts: 302
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I take it that if there was an electrical faliure as in the batteries failing this would not affect the steering response. Just the thought of hammering along at high speeds then the steering going all burty would certainly get your attention.
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19-01-2010, 11:06 PM
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#137
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Weston Super Mare
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numb Nuts
the steering going all burty would certainly get your attention.
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going all.........??
and why would i get there attention????
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20-01-2010, 09:00 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunton69
I'm not one of those into health and safety but i think a crash helmet might of helped especially if kids watch
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Bah, stuff all that H&S Bollox, it's crushing us all. I think it looks like great fun. Well riden/driven. do you have two wheels as well, or just the 4?
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20-01-2010, 12:06 PM
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#139
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
I take it that your not concerned about this boat conforming to CE regulations then?
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Put a number on it and he'll be fine!
Actually this is one of the main reasons I hate the CE system, many Ribs are assembled from a kit of parts at a dealers "workshop" which may or may not have the required skill levels and equipment to do a proper job of assembling said kit.
Assuming all of this was CE'd at the factory where the boat was originally assembled how officially would the boat stand?
And then the customer may fit or remove all sorts of bits and pieces which would change everything, especially if the motor was "upgraded" to beyond the original intended horsepower?
Electro hydraulic does scare the bejeeburs out of me in a high performance boat, but if anyone can pull this off I suspect Peter can!
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)
www.bananasharkracing.com
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20-01-2010, 01:57 PM
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#140
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Registered User
Occupation: Ex marine engineer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 175
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I installed a complete electric steering control system back in 1973 to HTS 2, it was designed by Mike Bellamy, after we swapped ends a few times I stripped it all out and fitted cables.
I know it was a long time ago.!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Cookee
Put a number on it and he'll be fine!
Actually this is one of the main reasons I hate the CE system, many Ribs are assembled from a kit of parts at a dealers "workshop" which may or may not have the required skill levels and equipment to do a proper job of assembling said kit.
Assuming all of this was CE'd at the factory where the boat was originally assembled how officially would the boat stand?
And then the customer may fit or remove all sorts of bits and pieces which would change everything, especially if the motor was "upgraded" to beyond the original intended horsepower?
Electro hydraulic does scare the bejeeburs out of me in a high performance boat, but if anyone can pull this off I suspect Peter can!
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