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Old 07-05-2004, 08:47 AM   #1
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US boat builders ??

think this question aimed at our US friends got lost on a previous site....


Which is the toughest built, best riding rough water hull your side of the pond??
In the 24-36ft range, new or old...
Cigarette, sonic, warlock, pantera, formula, apache, fountain, sunsation, active thunder, DCB ??

whats your view on stepped hulls compared to non stepped?? in terms of speed and handling/safety ??
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Old 07-05-2004, 10:24 AM   #2
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C'mon APB, Glastron Carlson is the only way to go!

Especially a '78 vintage in metalflake gold with brown & cream piped seats.

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Old 07-05-2004, 03:50 PM   #3
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Re: US boat builders ??

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think this question aimed at our US friends got lost on a previous site....


Which is the toughest built, best riding rough water hull your side of the pond??
In the 24-36ft range, new or old...
Cigarette, sonic, warlock, pantera, formula, apache, fountain, sunsation, active thunder, DCB ??

whats your view on stepped hulls compared to non stepped?? in terms of speed and handling/safety ??
The answer has to be the Kissin' Cousins..Cigarette and APACHE
Sonic has as great hull as well as Pantera
But, the best rough water boats are just outside your catagory...which is the Cigarette Top Gun and the 41 APACHE.
The 36 APACHE is a newer and shorter version of the 41
and the 35 Cig is either a Cafe Racer or a Mistress(which is what I own)

Fountains are extrememly quick with less HP and steps have increases that efficiency.
Steps in hulls have less wetted surface therefore much faster than a conventional v hull,although,can get squirrely if you do not know how to drive them....
as usual..just my 2 cents
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yes the top gun is my favourite boat!!
theres a mistress over here a early 80's i believe with 575's in.

can you post some pictures of yours??

The Apache looks cool I had a good look at them at the Miami boat show, met some guy called Eric who said he wouldnt sell a 28 unless it had min of 600hp !! nice style!!
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Btw...the person you met..ERIC...was Bobby Saccenti's partner.
Bob was the founder for APACHE...
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Old 07-05-2004, 07:09 PM   #9
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Nice! ...what power?
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Old 07-05-2004, 07:36 PM   #11
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I agree with Cashbrain but would like to add that in the 24 -28 range it is tough to top the pantera. Great rough water boat and a lifetime warranty on the hull and deck even if you race it
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Here is a link to there websitePantera
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I agree with Cashbrain but would like to add that in the 24 -28 range it is tough to top the pantera. Great rough water boat and a lifetime warranty on the hull and deck even if you race it
I agree...I know Pepe and Jo and they are great people to do business with and really know how to build a boat...
Here's another that can't be beat..a 28 CIG/SBC'S..and my first Cig
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:02 AM   #15
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There's a really ancient 28 cig over here that's been converted to a kind of open sports/fisher, 2xSBC also, they shoulda left it alone tho! will try and get a pic of it to post.
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:29 PM   #16
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Wot, this one? I posted this pic a few months ago on Speedwake, and the majority of opinions were that it's a fake!!
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Definitely a fake...
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We best make some stickers for the side of this fake! (Cashbrain, we don't like 'fakes' here! lol
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The sticker is even wrong
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