Round Britain 2008 - Page 26

the bandit · 03-06-2007, 08:42 PM

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Nice mate! Tried to get me dad to buy that when we first heard about the race.

What are you going to engine it with?

Thanks Will be putting on a couple of 300 Mercs.

Need the transom modified by someone who knows what there doing.

Jon Fuller · 03-06-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the bandit

Need the transom modified by someone who knows what there doing.

Leeway ribs would do it, i'm sure.

They may want you to leave it with them for a few weeks though, no sense pulling the mould off till it's completely cured.

Oh, and the transom might fall off first time out too.

TimB-C · 03-06-2007, 08:51 PM

Have you thought about a pair of Yanma's she would go great and be far more reliable and economical...........

the bandit · 03-06-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

Have you thought about a pair of Yanma's she would go great and be far more reliable and economical...........

Want to keep the power to weight down. I heard about some scorpions that run Yanma's.

the bandit · 03-06-2007, 09:03 PM

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Now where have i heard that before

Jon Fuller · 03-06-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by the bandit

Now where have i heard that before

robbie · 03-06-2007, 10:19 PM

I think the couple of Yanmars is a good idea. The 240 seems to be pretty bulit proof and if you have to make the Milford Haven to Bangor leg, thats a lot of petrol with twin 300's.

tecno_40 · 04-06-2007, 06:30 PM

Well this sure is a long thread, took a while to read through it and catch up!

It seems that some racers feel they need to have the fastest possible boat in their class to win. But I dont think that is what will win any class. There is no way you can run flat out day after day in a race like this as you will never finish, especially if it gets rough, so in the end it will be about a balanced performance i.e. good rough water speed, good navigation, good fuel management and above all a reliable (read not tuned to within an inch of its life) boat.

We are very much looking forward to taking part in this race, and hope that the spirit of the race will remain and that it doesnt just turn into a commercial circus in order to raise money. It is a shame for us that it cuts off the top corner of Scotland but we can understand why that decision has been taken especially for the smaller boats as we snapped two outboards off the back off our old rib on the stretch between Cape Wrath and Scrabster and it probably wasnt worse than a 5 or 6. Our biggest concern would be if we get a bad run of weather like we had in the last Harmsworth, how will the legs still be run...?

TimB-C · 04-06-2007, 06:35 PM

We drive to the conditions............for me if I had to I would steam a stage at 10 knots if it meant finishing, Tortois and the Hair, '69 the hair damn near lost to Derek Morris in Ford powered Huntsman !!!

Mike Lloyd · 04-06-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tecno_40

We are very much looking forward to taking part in this race, and hope that the spirit of the race will remain and that it doesnt just turn into a commercial circus in order to raise money.
Our biggest concern would be if we get a bad run of weather like we had in the last Harmsworth, how will the legs still be run...?

I want the best of all worlds for this race. Whether we get it is another thing but we can try. You have to understand that yes the "spirit" of the race will be there and is paramount as far as I am concerned but we can't do this on peanuts and have to raise as much finance as possible to ensure the race runs properly. If you compare the monies received in 1984 from Everest was £350,000 and compute that with inflation to today's rates you will then begin to understand where we have to be at. And they weren't at all interested in those days in publicity for either the competitors, the race, TV, global communications etc etc. The world has changed since those days, even I at my age can understand that. Today, if you want to make a splash of this important race internationally so that it can be run again sooner rather than later then that has to be done for not only everyone's sake, your sponsors and THE sponsors but also for the "image" of the sport in this country... Don't forget, the world will be watching, hopefully!

Regarding the weather, we will be playing that by ear and lashings of common sense but basically, if it's raining, blowing a force 6 and misty you will be running. If it's a 7 gusting to an 8 then nobody is going to be stupid enough to want to run in those conditions for 200 miles, well, I wouldn't have thought so.
ML.

TimB-C · 04-06-2007, 07:55 PM

Mike,
I still think that we should all sign an agrement not to protest and leave it to Rob and his team to weadle out the cheats..
As you know I also believe on a race such as this no navigational aids (ie GPS) should be allowed!!! I know your opinion Mike but you have now given me the opportunity to air my view, and I appologise, but I do honestly believe that each boat should be able to navigate in the spirit of the original format...
AND let's face it 90% of the racers of to-day even with GPS get lost on a circuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am now going to do waht all good seamen do in a gale.......................run for cover

Mike Lloyd · 04-06-2007, 08:13 PM

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Mike,
I still think that we should all sign an agrement not to protest and leave it to Rob and his team to weadle out the cheats..
As you know I also believe on a race such as this no navigational aids (ie GPS) should be allowed!!! I know your opinion Mike but you have now given me the opportunity to air my view, and I appologise, but I do honestly believe that each boat should be able to navigate in the spirit of the original format...
AND let's face it 90% of the racers of to-day even with GPS get lost on a circuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am now going to do waht all good seamen do in a gale.......................run for cover

Tim, John Wayne, you remember him don't you? used to say, "Never apologise, it's a sign of weakness"! I think that was from The Commancheros, and I always that was a great saying. Could never apply that to my wife though, I wonder why?

the bandit · 04-06-2007, 08:37 PM

It seems that some racers feel they need to have the fastest possible boat in their class to win. But I dont think that is what will win any class. There is no way you can run flat out day after day in a race like this as you will never finish, especially if it gets rough, so in the end it will be about a balanced performance i.e. good rough water speed, good navigation, good fuel management and above all a reliable (read not tuned to within an inch of its life) boat.

I agree

But 85% of 80mph is more than 85% of a 70mph boat.

Oh and the boat needs to be bullet proof.

Hence the Hunton.

TimB-C · 04-06-2007, 08:44 PM

you are right but the hunton with outboards ain't bullit proof !!! u need inboards and diesel inboards ...........

verytricky · 04-06-2007, 08:59 PM

The engine we have can run to 6500 rpm!!! But the builder thinks this would need a rebuild after an hour at that power, especially as there is little rev range movement in a boat. The engine was built for the 1km run at Conniston, and will have no problem running at 100% power for that short run, but for the RB the ECU for the engine will be restricted to 5250rpm and have a different fuel profile - and the engine propped appropriately for those lower revs. Interestingly the rev limits were decided in February, and result in the engine running at 80% of capacity ( not 85% )

and should then last the entire event.

It had better! My spare engine is a stock Volvo Penta!!!

the bandit · 04-06-2007, 09:03 PM

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If we loose a engine we should be able to run on 1 at a resonable speed and then replace the engine 4 bolts and a loom or am i missing something.

Why the need for inboards and diesel. Blow one of them and it will be a all night job. and £££££

TimB-C · 04-06-2007, 09:14 PM

either way ££££££££££££ but petrol price/consumption will be astranomical Bandit?? also resale value of boat will be much greater.............
What/if I buy will be one of the two main factors, know can't get entry/fuel costs back but hopefully most of purchase price yes.............

the bandit · 04-06-2007, 09:25 PM

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either way ££££££££££££ but petrol price/consumption will be astranomical Bandit?? also resale value of boat will be much greater.............
What/if I buy will be one of the two main factors, know can't get entry/fuel costs back but hopefully most of purchase price yes.............

Your far to sensible. You sound like the wife and i got shot of her 4 years ago.

Where is your sense of adventure and overdraft.

If we don't win then we hope to drink the most.

TimB-C · 04-06-2007, 09:30 PM

If you run petrol you will be to broke to get pizzed

Simmo · 04-06-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the bandit

If we loose a engine we should be able to run on 1 at a resonable speed and then replace the engine 4 bolts and a loom or am i missing something.

Why the need for inboards and diesel. Blow one of them and it will be a all night job. and £££££

Do you know if there will be any facilities in the pits like a couple of engine hoists to borrow? Or will we have to travel with our own?