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02-12-2006, 08:35 AM
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#261
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
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So Sunseeker and Revenger are tight arsed, what's new in that.
Prior to the speed limit being brought in to Poole Harbour, me and a couple of pals decided to fight it with the aid of a "boat friendly" solicitor. At quite a considerable expense to ourselves, we managed to get the first proposal stopped, but we soon realised it was going to be very expensive, so started to raise funds from local marine businesses, together with collecting signatures for a petition!
Everyone was happy to sign, but chipping in to the fighting fund was not very popular. Several of the large companies managed £25.oo each, and one managed a paltry £5.oo. We gave up shortly after that, run out of money and enthusiasm.
Stick me down for a trophy, it'll be the cheapest advertising I've ever had!
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02-12-2006, 10:12 AM
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#262
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Moderator
Country: England
Location: Cornwall.
Occupation: Retired.
Interests: Golf & liquid lunches with friends.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cornwall.
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I didn't write that with a view to poncing Trophies off of everyone, just out of pure frustration and these companies short sightedness but thanks all the same. I will remember your generous offers. But why can't these companies see beyond the end of their noses? It's a lesson learned.
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02-12-2006, 02:13 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: North Wales
Boat make: Avon
Engines: Yamaha
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North Wales
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Originally Posted by OldMan
It will go ahead providing we get the sponsorship we need
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When Bear Grylls was looking for sponsors for his Across the Atlantic expedition, he touted the idea around the corporate world looking for a main sponsor willing to shell out £250k. After hundreds of letters, and many corporate presentations, he didn't get a single bite.
What he did then was to divide the sponsorship up into £15000 bricks with the main sponsor brick at £50000. He sold all the bricks within a month.
Aligning the event with a main charity organisation (Princes Trust in this case) also helped in attracting sponsors.
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02-12-2006, 05:05 PM
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Moderator
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Location: Cornwall.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grInch
When Bear Grylls was looking for sponsors for his Across the Atlantic expedition, he touted the idea around the corporate world looking for a main sponsor willing to shell out £250k. After hundreds of letters, and many corporate presentations, he didn't get a single bite.
What he did then was to divide the sponsorship up into £15000 bricks with the main sponsor brick at £50000. He sold all the bricks within a month.
Aligning the event with a main charity organisation (Princes Trust in this case) also helped in attracting sponsors.
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I like that, we will look into it. Many thanks.
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02-12-2006, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Watford
Occupation: Private Hire Company
Interests: Boats Cars women and wine
Boat name: The Bandit & The Bandit1
Boat make: Revenger San Marino & Hunton Rib
Engines: For sale Twin 225 Opti's
Cruising area: The Solent
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Afew years ago there was car at le Mans that sold something like 2000 small ads stuck over the car for about £100 quid each. to raise the funds.
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05-12-2006, 09:33 AM
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Moderator
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Who is this?
Can anyone help me here. Have had an email from a guy who wants to take part but all I have is this : colin@morgan.fsnet.co.uk and my reply keeps bouncing back.
Anyone know who he is or have his contact details please?
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05-12-2006, 10:12 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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That's 'Rockey' on this forum. AKA Colin Morgan.
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05-12-2006, 10:16 AM
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There's goes Rockey's plans to keep a low profile!
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05-12-2006, 10:30 AM
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#269
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: dorset
Interests: wasting money on boats
Boat name: aquilla .
Boat make: Superhawk 40. Ring 21E. Seadoo gtx. Windy Khamsin
Engines: Kad 300s. 300xs Dbr .d6 370 230 4tec
Cruising area: corfu
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only making enquires
my beat pal has a 34 hawk twin 315 yanmars in 2008 i was going to 50/50
give the boat and me a diet see what it coud do. it will flat out do 45 knots gps but cruises well at 38 at the moment , if we can get it to do 40+ crusing ,won't be the fastest but when it get's rough who no's
it's only a idea at the moment
ps low profile
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05-12-2006, 11:12 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
There's goes Rockey's plans to keep a low profile!
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I spose he should'a thought of that when handing out an email that don't work!
I didn't deliberately 'expose' him! didn't know he was being a 'secret squirrel'.
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05-12-2006, 04:19 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: dorset
Interests: wasting money on boats
Boat name: aquilla .
Boat make: Superhawk 40. Ring 21E. Seadoo gtx. Windy Khamsin
Engines: Kad 300s. 300xs Dbr .d6 370 230 4tec
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'secret squirrel'.
no
just did not want to say anything untill had done enough research
want to make sure the hawk would be allright for it
'expose'
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05-12-2006, 11:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay
Join Date: Jan 2006
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As regards one of the well known makes that said no, this is the reason I would not say there name back in the summer, http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....poole+bay+race just a Buzzi boat, all there after is your money I doubt if the guy in control is really that intrested in boats that much, large expensive yachts and a big land bank for future family generations yes, nothing wrong with that as long as the public realises there not a sporting brand, there hulls are not tested in a racing environment, and I hope no one compete's in one, so the parasite's cant advertise in any way kinell me rant is almost like a kinfast post
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06-12-2006, 09:17 AM
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Large member
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
Boat make: a V24 and a SLOW unstable ICE Bladerunner
Engines: 2x300 promax, 320 Volvo
Cruising area: England/France & Med
Join Date: May 2005
Location: On the farm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldMan
Surprisingly they have refused on the basis that it would be a “conflict of interest”. In the 1984 Round Britain Race two of their boats came home in the top ten and they used that information in their sales brochures for years.
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It would be very easy to officially not name the brand in all official press releases, website entrants lists etc. This would cost you nothing, and would be a poke in the eye with a sharp stick if they lost this publicity.
Another option would be to trademark or by some other method licence the use of the name of the race, so they can not use it for advertising. Much like the olimpics guys do - you cant use it unless you pay for the privalwge. Sign up some boat guys like TD to pay a £50 fee for the rights to be a manufacturing sponsor or something - and get the wording from the olimpic committee court cases that restricts the use of the event to official sponsors only.
Finally - the most likely hull from our manufacturer is likely to be the Buzzi hull - Call it that in all entrants and in all press releases.
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06-12-2006, 09:35 AM
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Moderator
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Location: Cornwall.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by verytricky
Finally - the most likely hull from our manufacturer is likely to be the Buzzi hull - Call it that in all entrants and in all press releases.
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Thanks for that valuable advice, I will follow it through.
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06-12-2006, 10:04 AM
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#275
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Large member
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
Boat make: a V24 and a SLOW unstable ICE Bladerunner
Engines: 2x300 promax, 320 Volvo
Cruising area: England/France & Med
Join Date: May 2005
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Or someone from SS could read this forum and have a sudden change of heart. :UP:
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06-12-2006, 10:50 AM
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#276
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldMan
Thanks for that valuable advice, I will follow it through.
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And Don Shead design in the case of 'most' other boats from them.
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10-12-2006, 12:55 AM
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Member
Country: uk
Location: brighton
Occupation: derivatives trader
Interests: powerboating & ice hockey
Boat name: marex for this year
Boat make: wonky shed cowdron
Engines: twin merc 250 opti xs
Cruising area: southcoast & europe
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: brighton
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I got the impression that after last years Sunseekers wild card entry in the P1 at Cowes. They were going to race as a factory team in this years P1.
Am I totally wrong? (as usual I know)
If I'm wrong and they are not racing, its a shame. There boat was crewed by a couple of really nice guys. The SS Casino Royal boat is not fast enough for P1 in my opinion, however I think it would be a good boat for RGB, considering how well it went on the sunday in Cowes.
As for sponsorship....T Fibby has my thoughts and ideas re encouraging corporate sponsorship of this fantastic event. But another angle maybe to get Discovery Channel or National Goegraphic involved by the way off a reality
TV fly on the wall documentary following the preparations and dramas of some of the teams. You know something like American Choppers, but with boats and people who argue in english, and except that large scupltured moustaches became unfashionable with the birth of the jet engine!!
Just some uncontroversial thoughts.
Cheers & be safe all
P
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10-12-2006, 10:38 AM
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#278
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Moderator
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Location: Cornwall.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KINPACIFIST
I got the impression that after last years Sunseekers wild card entry in the P1 at Cowes. They were going to race as a factory team in this years P1.
As for sponsorship....Just some uncontroversial thoughts.
Cheers & be safe all
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Thanks for your input, it's all appreciated. I don't think I am breaking any confidences, well at least I hope not, by saying that particular boat actually entered this week for the RB but as a private entry and not a Sunseeker jobby and that will make 12 Class 1's right now!
As for sponsorship? getting you guys on board keen and eager to do this race seems to be the easy bit, We are working down two avenues right now on the sponsorship/TV but the problem is getting people round a table to thrash things through. There always seems to be another priority but we will keep banging away until we succeed.
December news coming out at the end of this week. I will be asking for help in some areas.
ML.
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10-12-2006, 12:19 PM
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#279
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Watford
Occupation: Private Hire Company
Interests: Boats Cars women and wine
Boat name: The Bandit & The Bandit1
Boat make: Revenger San Marino & Hunton Rib
Engines: For sale Twin 225 Opti's
Cruising area: The Solent
Join Date: Mar 2006
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He's Back:
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10-12-2006, 12:49 PM
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#280
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the bandit
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What DO you mean Bandit?
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