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07-05-2010, 10:40 PM
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Registered User
Country: Uk
Location: West End
Boat name: Bovvered
Boat make: Extreme 26
Engines: Yanmar 315
Cruising area: South Coast
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The deck shape looks really good, I particullay like the style of the half canopy.
Looking forward to seeing the finished boat.
Keep posting the build pics, it's great too see it coming together.
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08-05-2010, 06:55 AM
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Console Design
Sparse,Barren Wastleland,the Yanks have already expressed their thinking on Brit boat consoles, when in 1989 at the Atlantic City Worlds,the former Double Two Shirts (aka Diesel Dancer) was described as `SANITARY`.
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08-05-2010, 08:44 AM
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#203
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Originally Posted by cfun
To True ...
... However
... Where's the BEAK No self respecting wig wearing American would possibly consider it a contender without a beak
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Luckily no Americans were involved (or harmed!) in the designing or making of the boat at all!
Thanks for the nice comments guys - it's great to hear that we're going in the right direction! We have always gone on the assumption that if it looks right it probably is - the proof will be in the winning ...........
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09-05-2010, 01:12 PM
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Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
Sparse,Barren Wastleland,the Yanks have already expressed their thinking on Brit boat consoles, when in 1989 at the Atlantic City Worlds,the former Double Two Shirts (aka Diesel Dancer) was described as `SANITARY`.
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Yeah, it must really feckin hurt them boys when Buzzi turns up with his agricultural looking stuff billowing smoke, and stamps all over their pretty fairy cakes when its 'real' Ocean racing. I expect there's a lorra faces that look like slapped arses moping around the dock after the difficult old Italian has opened a big oul tin of woope-arse on them.
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18-06-2010, 04:40 PM
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#205
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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About time for an update - having a windscreen in a boat requires quite a bit more work at this stage - we have the screens now and Kitten has taken a pattern off them - not using anything with styrene in it of course - he used PVA glue and ended up with a shape the same as the inside of the screen.
The pattern is then being used to make a plant for the mould which will be used to make the actual boat. The pattern will form part of the structure of the cockpit roof - in effect we are building the cockpit roof around the pattern taken from the screens therefore ensuring that it will all fit together perfectly every time. The only assumption in all of this is that the screen manufacturer is capable of repeating their side of the job accurately!
Photo 1 screen with protective wrapping if you can see it!
Photo 2 the pattern is taking shape - the screens are laying outside face down
Photo 3 the pair of patterns are done - removed from the original and the surface is covered in Formica
Photo 4 the plant is then laid up onto the pattern thick enough to allow for the thickness of the screen and the glue that will hold it in ensuring a flush fit in the boat
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18-06-2010, 04:46 PM
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#206
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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The rear end is nearly finished - Formica doesn't do compound curves so some of it has to be done the old fashioned way with filler then high build paint, rubbed down and polished, the flat or single curve areas can be covered in Formica.
The extension that will extend over the drives is not on the boat - the shape you see in the photo with Kitten in will allow outboards to trim up if fitted and will provide a positive location for the extension when inboards are fitted.
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18-06-2010, 04:52 PM
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#207
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Trade Member
Country: England
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Boatbuilder / Design
Interests: Anything powered on wheels, water or air
Boat name: OVERLORD
Boat make: RING 34' SPORTSBOAT 2 X V8 PETROL
Engines: 2 x 320 MERCRUISER B1
Cruising area: South coast
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[QUOTE=Cookee;183394]About time for an update - having a windscreen in a boat requires quite a bit more work at this stage -
Blimey Guys ,
Thats an understatement !!!
I am glad I am sticking to a proven simple sportsboat layout, even that is taking a lot out of my life in addition to getting production stuff out of the door. !
....And Kitten, that old Sloper is a real Country Boys mount, have you never owned a featherbed framed Norton !!
Keep at it you fellers. ... CTCis looming ever nearer for all of us.
Mike
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18-06-2010, 05:07 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
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Looks fantastic!
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18-06-2010, 08:50 PM
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Location: devon
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[QUOTE=Mike Ring;183396
....And Kitten, that old Sloper is a real Country Boys mount, have you never owned a featherbed framed Norton !!
Keep at it you fellers. ... CTCis looming ever nearer for all of us.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Well spotted Mike, you wouldn't belive the number of people who say "nice triomph" Feather bed? sounds a bit nancy to me.
CTC what's that?
Was thinking of you today, got one of these yet? They are awsome for cutting to pattern
Scand startint to look almost as good as the renders.
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19-06-2010, 07:49 AM
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Agent Secateur
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Location: Wiltshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
Well spotted Mike, you wouldn't belive the number of people who say "nice triomph" Feather bed? sounds a bit nancy to me.
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Love it to bits, always wanted one but with 5 bikes already I'd have a hard time convincing the mrs
Is it a model 100 or a 120?
Loving the build thread too. When I win the lottery you're my 1st port of call.
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19-06-2010, 08:59 AM
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It's the real one , M100 not the oversrtoked badly oiled 120, I love the way the 100's have 100 cast into the casings and the 120's just have it ground off
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19-06-2010, 09:03 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Loving the build thread too. When I win the lottery you're my 1st port of call.
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It's OK we do part exchanges - you know the sort of thing - right arm, kidney, first born etc .............
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19-06-2010, 09:31 AM
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Registered User
Country: SOUTH WEST UK
Location: WESTON SUPER MARE
Occupation: MERCEDES SALESMAN
Interests: POWER BOAT RACING
Boat name: BIG AIR
Boat make: PHANTOM 19
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: BRISTOL CHANNEL
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Originally Posted by Cookee
About time for an update - having a windscreen in a boat requires quite a bit more work at this stage - we have the screens now and Kitten has taken a pattern off them - not using anything with styrene in it of course - he used PVA glue and ended up with a shape the same as the inside of the screen.
The pattern is then being used to make a plant for the mould which will be used to make the actual boat. The pattern will form part of the structure of the cockpit roof - in effect we are building the cockpit roof around the pattern taken from the screens therefore ensuring that it will all fit together perfectly every time. The only assumption in all of this is that the screen manufacturer is capable of repeating their side of the job accurately!
Photo 1 screen with protective wrapping if you can see it!
Photo 2 the pattern is taking shape - the screens are laying outside face down
Photo 3 the pair of patterns are done - removed from the original and the surface is covered in Formica
Photo 4 the plant is then laid up onto the pattern thick enough to allow for the thickness of the screen and the glue that will hold it in ensuring a flush fit in the boat
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Looking at all those blocks of wood is Kitten any good at JENGA ?
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19-06-2010, 11:02 AM
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#214
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Agent Secateur
Country: UK
Location: Wiltshire
Occupation: Smartass
Interests: Sheep worrying
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
It's OK we do part exchanges - you know the sort of thing - right arm, kidney, first born etc .............
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Can it be other people's first born?
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19-06-2010, 11:06 AM
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#215
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Agent Secateur
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
It's the real one , M100 not the oversrtoked badly oiled 120, I love the way the 100's have 100 cast into the casings and the 120's just have it ground off
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I've got a period Watsonian Squire Palma chassis knocking about if you want it, complete with a towball. You'd be able to use it to launch with then
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21-06-2010, 09:08 AM
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#216
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Hatches
Just curious,but with all that curvature on the aft deck are the engine hatch hinges on outboard edges, with large car hinges to overcome the curvature,or transversely mounted on a flat plane and hope the wind doesn`t catch the hatch like a large sail when opened.
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21-06-2010, 09:14 AM
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#217
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
Just curious,but with all that curvature on the aft deck are the engine hatch hinges on outboard edges, with large car hinges to overcome the curvature,or transversely mounted on a flat plane and hope the wind doesn`t catch the hatch like a large sail when opened.
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That's an old picture - we've gone for Yanmars instead of the Steyrs, but the shape of the boat is the same. It will be one large hatch with the hinge at the rear of the engine bay - Kitten has designed some hinges that will be hidden and provide a lot of strength but will utilise the structure of the boat to provide strength to the hatch when it is closed.
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21-06-2010, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Kitten has designed some hinges that will be hidden and provide a lot of strength but will utilise the structure of the boat to provide strength to the hatch when it is closed.
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I can just see your cat pouring over a gas strut catalogue,or maybe a hydraulic ram chart.What a clever cat.
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21-06-2010, 01:34 PM
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#219
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
I can just see your cat pouring over a gas strut catalogue,or maybe a hydraulic ram chart.What a clever cat.
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He may be called Kitten, but he certainly isn't a pussy!
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21-06-2010, 01:50 PM
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numbskull
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I beg to differ
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