BananaShark 34 build thread

[kitten]

Originally Posted by lloyde

if you want i will send you a sample ?

Thanks Lloyde, My freebee arrived this morning

[biffer]

Originally Posted by NIC SURRY

Hi Cooke the project looks great as you are happy to post info about this would it not make a good regular feature with monthly progress on Sport Boat and Rib,as I think the magazine needs an uplift-getting a bit boring/repetetive and hopefully they would pay you for the article,just my thoughts but it might gain some publicity for you and the sport in general.Best wishes Nic

i'm with you on this one, if you offered them a jolly you'll soon be in the mag, they should pay you John, without people like you where would the mag be, it would be nice too see the future instead of the past

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by biffer

i'm with you on this one, if you offered them a jolly you'll soon be in the mag, they should pay you John, without people like you where would the mag be, it would be nice too see the future instead of the past

Their angle is that it would be self promotion - maybe I'll see if another mag would like to pay me for it!

[FLYING FISH]

I know this is drifting off the thread a bit,but trying to get powerboating in mags is as difficult as it has ever been.For example

World of Powerboats - a few pages of roundups now

H2O - on hold till end of the year

Powerboat (US mag) - reduced to half it`s thickness with hardly any reports in it.

MB & Y - just Bulman and the odd story.

They are all suffering,and with the internet find it almost impossible to keep going.I`ve lost count of the number of mags that have come and gone over the years,Dave Sewell being one of the few stalwarts to keep the sport visible.
It seems that in order to maintain some sort of presence,it`s needs combining with a general boating mag,as the dedicated powerboat ones just can`t survive.Long gone are the days of a weekly mag that covered both yachting and powerboating.The `bananashark` would have had christ knows how many column inches dedicated to it ,if it was being built in the early 70`s.
No easy answers on this,short of putting a diatribe on Dave Sewell`s new site.Dave might just solve the old fashion `Yachting & Boating ` weekly of years ago.

[lloyde]

Originally Posted by kitten

Thanks Lloyde, My freebee arrived this morning

Thats good ,was not sure it would get there before Easter

[biffer]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Their angle is that it would be self promotion - maybe I'll see if another mag would like to pay me for it!

i wonder whats involved in starting a mag, going down the pub now but will give it some thought, reading the crap that's in the mags now i'm sure there room for a better one

[Jon Holmes]

Here here,

There is more substance in a "Big Mac" than most magazines and they cost less and leave you feeling satiated for longer.

I do not believe for one minute that magazine sales are down due to the internet, i believe it is down to their ever decreasing written content and ever increasing advertising.

[Athito]

Originally Posted by Jon Holmes

Here here,

There is more substance in a "Big Mac" than most magazines and they cost less and leave you feeling satiated for longer.

Agreed!!!!

Originally Posted by Jon Holmes

I do not believe for one minute that magazine sales are down due to the internet, i believe it is down to their ever decreasing written content and ever increasing advertising.

Suspect this warrants a thread of its own????? Meantime stuff to consider:

Unfortunately I suspect there is a vicious circle / competing pressures between internet and print.

I find I read / research more and more on the internet. Couple of years ago the only way to find stuff out was mags and boat shows...now even my dad Googles.

Indeed....there is more relevant, practical "stuff" to be obtained from forums such as Boatmad and YBW.com than a magazine could ever hope to provide in printed form.

The really valuable stuff I get from magazines is the group test stuff where they compare several things against eachother and there is a semblance of "testing" and "expertise" that comes in as opposed to the forum view where people have only typically tried one brand/type/whatever of the item in question and have a single opinion as opposed to a measured view across the piece.

I subscribe to WofPowerboats and Powerboat (US) and have seen a decline in articles recently...disappointing...but I can see the internet/print correlation.




Some thoughts:

Magazines:
I imagine their business model is advertising acreage, not what it sells for on the newsstand? Judging by how many pages are advert -v- article??
Printing logistics, Distribution complexity
Convincing "WH Smith" to stock it
Employing a team of journalists, or having cash to pay for freelance articles
Defining a readership broad enough to warrant the costs above (and spread them) but narrow enough to be "enthusiasts"?


Internet:
Zero printing/distribution costs (relatively speaking)
Employing a team of journalists, or having cash to pay for freelance articles - same as a magazine? Perhaps.
You take out one of the big "ifs" (and costs) of WH Smith style involvement




I would love to see a specific mag for "us"....but suspect if Powerboat(US) can't make it work with a boating population in the millions then we're going to struggle a bit over here when we're counted in the low-thousands.

For me the true magic would be an internet-based "live" magazine. A bit like Wikipedia where loads of people are contributing to the articles. That way you get a great spread of topics...everyhting is kept current-ish...and you get that in-depth "journalism".

Hard to manage...but great if it worked.

[FLYING FISH]

Try

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...agazine-5.html

[Athito]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

Try

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...agazine-5.html

Some really interesting debate! Good spot.

Maybe we don't need to take over Cookee's thread after all....

[Cookee]

OK back to boat - well mould making for now ........ the mould needs some strengthening to make sure it will hold its shape - and then we'll be turning the whole thing over to do the deck!

[Jizm]

Looking really good now John, nice to see the entire process but it is difficult to keep a thread on here on topic sometimes...!

[Cookee]

Turned the whole thing over yesterday so the next thing is to do the deck - took lots of photos but they're all at work so I'll put those up on Tuesday. In the meantime Scand has sent me these, he did apologise about the flames! They show the open option on the new boat - of course the amount of roof is variable between a full canopy and this version.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by Cookee

....... he did apologise about the flames!

I think they kind'a suit you!

Looks lovely. He has a very good eye for lines.

Just down to you chumps to turn it into reality now.

[kitten]

The chumps are on it Boss.
Thought you might turn up on wednesday, someone left some chocci bisquits in the workshop.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by kitten

Thought you might turn up on wednesday, someone left some chocci bisquits in the workshop.

Yes, I smelt them, but was too busy to head down.

[Athito]

So will the hard top be removeable?

If so is it stowable on board or too big for that?

[kitten]

Q.. would you like it removable and stowable on your new boat?

(Delete as approriate)

A... It is, what colour would you like it sir
A... No.

Regards the BananaShark development team.

[Athito]

How do I "add to basket"...!!??

Want one...though we might need a conversation about colours!!!!!!

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Athito

How do I "add to basket"...!!??

Want one...though we might need a conversation about colours!!!!!!

No problem on the colours - you can have it in plain white, any gelcoat colour you like, painted or wrapped sir!

another option on the roof is something similar to the race roof with removable panels. We hope that there will be room in the engine compartment for a removable roof and we will have to see how much of the roof will fit in there! Of course a leisure version would have a V berth cabin, heads and small galley - an outboard version could even have an aft cabin as well, many options!