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08-09-2010, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
White Iveco had a 2" balsa bottom. Steve Baker looked with interest when it was holed in ramsgate on a bollard.
Swipes entire running surface is 1" balsa/Aramat sandwich.
Honey Party was 3" balsa bottom, and I understand some of the class one cats have 5" cored bottoms in places.
So not that unusual.
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 I was not aware, increasing modulus with almost none extra weight is always good!
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09-09-2010, 08:25 AM
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#282
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BananaShark Member
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I was not aware, increasing modulus with almost none extra weight is always good! |
Glad we could educate you! Just for interest which yard do you work in?
We laminated the hull and deck for swipes, and although our boat will be regular polyester and fibreglass albeit woven roving combi mat and Swipes is Aramat the construction will be very similar and it's worked for that boat - CTC this year was a great test, even works well under water!
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09-09-2010, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Cookee
even works well under water!
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That was uncalled for,even though it`s true.
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09-09-2010, 09:24 AM
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#284
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Svipevipes...
"Windscreens are for girls!" ...we're fitting a conning tower...
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09-09-2010, 09:38 AM
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#285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Glad we could educate you! Just for interest which yard do you work in?
We laminated the hull and deck for swipes, and although our boat will be regular polyester and fibreglass albeit woven roving combi mat and Swipes is Aramat the construction will be very similar and it's worked for that boat - CTC this year was a great test, even works well under water!
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so far Rodman, spain  patrol boats building but also supply/offshore ships-steel-
patrol boats are polyester and fiberglass.
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09-09-2010, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta28
"Windscreens are for girls!" ...we're fitting a conning tower...
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Good.The next convoy across Lyme Bay will be late August 2011,when you and the veteran of undersea running can wreak havoc.
God,hope Markus doesn`t read this!
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09-09-2010, 11:04 AM
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He'd be the first to laugh...
Seem to remember him making a similar reference in one of his posts last year
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09-09-2010, 11:05 AM
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Don't mention the War!
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Originally Posted by Delta28
He'd be the first to laugh...
Seem to remember him making a similar reference in one of his posts last year
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And this year.
I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.
Anyway, they started it.
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09-09-2010, 11:19 AM
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#289
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09-09-2010, 01:58 PM
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BananaShark Member
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so far Rodman, spain patrol boats building but also supply/offshore ships-steel-
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OK, a bit different to Offshore raceboats then! I think the only similarity would be the materials, and even then I suspect your build would be "a bit heavier" than ours!
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09-09-2010, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookee
OK, a bit different to Offshore raceboats then! I think the only similarity would be the materials, and even then I suspect your build would be "a bit heavier" than ours! |
Some info for you John.
Many years ago Rodman came to Don Shead for his ideas for their Patrol Boats,so with the help of Ken Raybould,they produced Patrol Craft that could hunt down the ex-Shead racers doing the Morocco run.They have since moved on to bigger craft since,but have always produced high class competitve boats.If `a26` was to look at some Rodman drawings from the 80`s he should discover the `Shead Design` title block on a lot of the drawings.
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09-09-2010, 05:21 PM
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#292
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLYING FISH
Some info for you John.
Many years ago Rodman came to Don Shead for his ideas for their Patrol Boats,so with the help of Ken Raybould,they produced Patrol Craft that could hunt down the ex-Shead racers doing the Morocco run.They have since moved on to bigger craft since,but have always produced high class competitve boats.If `a26` was to look at some Rodman drawings from the 80`s he should discover the `Shead Design` title block on a lot of the drawings.
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you are right.mainly, all of them are don shead designs.they run very good. 55 is fast!
but it is also true that weight is high, but surprisingly they run more than what you can expect
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09-09-2010, 05:22 PM
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in the 34´.is the outer laminate of the sandwich same as the inner one?
thanks
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09-09-2010, 05:30 PM
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#294
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in the 34´.is the outer laminate of the sandwich same as the inner one?
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Yes.
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15-09-2010, 03:20 PM
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This yellow enough for you Mr Fuller?
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15-09-2010, 03:50 PM
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What the "Special yellow stuff" is for - well at least one use - more will be revealed as we go along!
This is spreading the load of the central windscreen support, the "orange stuff" will provide a smooth transition between the main layup of the deck and the flange for the screen giving us the strongest possible support where it is needed.
The UIM specifications call for 50mm flange for a full cockpit boat, so we will stick to that.
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17-09-2010, 09:43 PM
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whats the orange stuff??
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17-09-2010, 10:09 PM
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Could it be filler?
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18-09-2010, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
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whats the orange stuff??
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crestomer 1196 and micro balloons to fill the edge of the screen rebate and give us a nice flat matt run from the outer skin to the flange line
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20-09-2010, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
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crestomer 1196 and micro balloons to fill the edge of the screen rebate and give us a nice flat matt run from the outer skin to the flange line
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What I would of said (sort of) 
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