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22-01-2010, 12:47 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Cool, so overall, more like 36+?
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22-01-2010, 01:02 PM
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#82
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
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Overall length
Bernico at the Worlds !!
He built a boat to length and then added a 'bathing platform' on the end that was another 4ft long.
This covered the drive as the Banana shark does.
Problem with the Bernico was that Nico decided not to waste the extra length and put a ballast tank in it
The boat was weighed after one of the races and came in at 3400kg's.
Try skiing past that!
You can see in the pics that when this boat lands the rear platform makes contact with the water and helps to flaten the wake.
There are still length discussions going on about this at World level but I am sure the this boat is banned form competing again.
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22-01-2010, 01:02 PM
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#83
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
34 is as per rules ie end of running surface to nose.
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Is that "todays" rules...or tomorrows?.........
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22-01-2010, 01:14 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Originally Posted by Jono
Is that "todays" rules...or tomorrows?.........
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"It's good to talk"
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22-01-2010, 01:35 PM
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Registered User
Location: devon
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: devon
Posts: 556
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yesterdays, I is abit behind the times
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22-01-2010, 01:37 PM
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timtap
Country: England
Location: Paignton Devon
Occupation: Ex Marine Engineer , Licencee
Interests: Photography, Real Ale .
Boat name: Shooters Too
Boat make: Scarab 22SC
Engines: Mercruiser 270hp
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Paignton Devon
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Originally Posted by Cyco
Bernico at the Worlds !!
He built a boat to length and then added a 'bathing platform' on the end that was another 4ft long.
This covered the drive as the Banana shark does.
Problem with the Bernico was that Nico decided not to waste the extra length and put a ballast tank in it
The boat was weighed after one of the races and came in at 3400kg's.
Try skiing past that!
You can see in the pics that when this boat lands the rear platform makes contact with the water and helps to flaten the wake.
There are still length discussions going on about this at World level but I am sure the this boat is banned form competing again.
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1) I'm sure the whole idea of this beast is that NO skier even remotely gets the chance to ski PAST that boat
2) How can a platform , even the lower ones used in conjunction with the Trimax Drives make the slightest bit of difference to the wake ??????
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22-01-2010, 01:43 PM
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Registered User
Location: devon
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Cyco,
I think you will find that the platform has nothing to do with it, it is the shape of the rear of the planning suface and the massive trim tabs where the problem lies.
Got any photos of the rear surface?
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22-01-2010, 04:34 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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Stunning boat though !!
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National Outboard Immersed Propeller Mono Record 103mph
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22-01-2010, 04:51 PM
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#89
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: poole
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Thought this was extremely interesting as I had not realised the implications of various exotic materials on durability plus long term visual appearance but this thread here makes an interesting read ...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...r-opinion.html
The Dragon boat was built from Epoxy resin, Kevlar, carbon–fiber, E–glass hybrids and knitted fiberglass cloth so I assume it was as hard as nails with no flex as mentioned in the above thread
Dragon boat design ...
http://gulfcoastboatingcenter.com/dr...s_release.html
Is the New 34' going to be built using conventional materials, or the more exotic stuff mentioned above
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22-01-2010, 07:45 PM
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#90
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
yesterdays, I is abit behind the times
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.......No. Tell me that's not true....
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22-01-2010, 11:06 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: liverpool
Interests: sailing ribing
Boat name: llyn raider
Boat make: 7m xs rib
Engines: 200 merc opti
Cruising area: n wales
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: liverpool
Posts: 215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfun
Thought this was extremely interesting as I had not realised the implications of various exotic materials on durability plus long term visual appearance but this thread here makes an interesting read ...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...r-opinion.html
The Dragon boat was built from Epoxy resin, Kevlar, carbon–fiber, E–glass hybrids and knitted fiberglass cloth so I assume it was as hard as nails with no flex as mentioned in the above thread
Dragon boat design ...
http://gulfcoastboatingcenter.com/dr...s_release.html
Is the New 34' going to be built using conventional materials, or the more exotic stuff mentioned above
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It is an interesting one (build techniques). I have seen/helped out with a lot of racing yacht builds and modifications, and the builds seem more complex on average. i.e vacume bagging epoxys and all the above seem more common in yacht builds than than in powerboat builds.
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02-02-2010, 04:56 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfun
Thought this was extremely interesting as I had not realised the implications of various exotic materials on durability plus long term visual appearance but this thread here makes an interesting read ...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...r-opinion.html
The Dragon boat was built from Epoxy resin, Kevlar, carbon–fiber, E–glass hybrids and knitted fiberglass cloth so I assume it was as hard as nails with no flex as mentioned in the above thread
Dragon boat design ...
http://gulfcoastboatingcenter.com/dr...s_release.html
Is the New 34' going to be built using conventional materials, or the more exotic stuff mentioned above
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We will be using nothing more exotic that Aramat which is the same material that went into Swipewipes along with regular polyester resin. Make it too stiff and that can cause big problems over a long period of race use. We will probably be using foam longitudinals and wooden engine bearers and transom.
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)
www.bananasharkracing.com
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02-02-2010, 05:00 PM
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#93
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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A few more photos to show what's been happening recently - the hull is now covered with shiny white stuff (stuck 9on with spray on contact adhesive) and the spray rails have been fitted.
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)
www.bananasharkracing.com
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02-02-2010, 05:59 PM
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#94
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood
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Location: Great Horwood
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02-02-2010, 06:27 PM
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#95
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: engineer
Interests: lots
Boat make: scorpion 8.1
Engines: 250HO
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: southampton
Posts: 1,353
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao
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yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Cookee, whats the shiny white stuff stuck on hull??
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02-02-2010, 10:47 PM
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#96
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
We will be using nothing more exotic that Aramat which is the same material that went into Swipewipes along with regular polyester resin. Make it too stiff and that can cause big problems over a long period of race use. We will probably be using foam longitudinals and wooden engine bearers and transom.
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Hey, I thought you boys reckoned Aramat was a waste of time & money? You gave it a slaggin when I turned up with that as spec for Swipes.
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02-02-2010, 11:03 PM
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#97
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 2,372
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glen76
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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What does this mean?
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03-02-2010, 08:38 AM
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longbow
Country: Southern U.K.
Occupation: Not working right now
Interests: Life.
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao
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I'm confused, is this your boat you are building Mr Cooke as this bloke (VeryTricky) is saying it's his or are there two boats being built like this?
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03-02-2010, 10:09 AM
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#99
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by longbow
I'm confused, is this your boat you are building Mr Cooke as this bloke (VeryTricky) is saying it's his or are there two boats being built like this?
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So am I
I guess Very Tricky is the first customer.
Congrats are in order too as it appears he's become a dad
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03-02-2010, 11:14 AM
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#100
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: poole
Posts: 1,681
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I agree it's great news to hear that BananaShark have been commissioned to build another boat and as I seem to remember Cookee working on his 34'Tri therefore it seems like good business sense, I assume this is the boat Cookee had talked of on another thread with the possibility of fitting Merc 525hp engines with speeds in the 90'smph region ... Is this boat intending to spend most of it's time in the UK racing marathon, as in the linked thread he talks of UK waters, or will it at some point contest the SuperSport P1 racing events
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