RE-LAUNCH of CTC Race - Page 22

Jim O'Toole · 11-09-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ciao!

P1 is a business.

Business has no respect for history or tradition.

oooh errr, bit of a sweeping statement, wee man?

but you're right we are a business....

and busineses run on money,

venues pay us money to come race and bring the value of our circus...witness Vigo this weekend, great place, excellent support and touch wood we'll put on a great show right in front of the city centre (sacrilige I know, too close, too short, too circuit racing,,,,blah blah ) but it represents real value for them

this is 21st century powerboat series promotion I'm afraid....I think what you guys are doing with ctc is exactly right, an adventure for all an sundry who have the boats, the money and the inclination.....

meantime I need to create a calender that pays for itself and sadly one way or another we'll be racing somewhere that weekend...it's a key season extender for many venues .

jim

ciao! · 12-09-2008, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim O'Toole

oooh errr, bit of a sweeping statement, wee man?

but you're right we are a business....

and busineses run on money,

venues pay us money to come race and bring the value of our circus...witness Vigo this weekend, great place, excellent support and touch wood we'll put on a great show right in front of the city centre (sacrilige I know, too close, too short, too circuit racing,,,,blah blah ) but it represents real value for them

this is 21st century powerboat series promotion I'm afraid....I think what you guys are doing with ctc is exactly right, an adventure for all an sundry who have the boats, the money and the inclination.....

meantime I need to create a calender that pays for itself and sadly one way or another we'll be racing somewhere that weekend...it's a key season extender for many venues .

jim

I hear where you are coming from, but without Euro Buns you are left with 20% of F all.

So rather than taking the fast track to sponsorship, should you not be thinking about the rungs on the ladder that you may have broken on the way up?

Jim O'Toole · 15-09-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciao!

I hear where you are coming from, but without Euro Buns you are left with 20% of F all.

So rather than taking the fast track to sponsorship, should you not be thinking about the rungs on the ladder that you may have broken on the way up?

no.......

nice simile or is it a metaphor.....I wish sponsorship was a fast track....

in our little corner of the powerboating world , it's all about the dough , not ther passion or the glory........ i'm afraid

no dough . no show

jim

ps eurobuns is toast , sold for lots of millions

Cookee · 15-09-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim O'Toole

no.......

nice simile or is it a metaphor.....I wish sponsorship was a fast track....

in our little corner of the powerboating world , it's all about the dough , not ther passion or the glory........ i'm afraid

no dough . no show

jim

ps eurobuns is toast , sold for lots of millions

See you at the boat show tomorrow Jim?

Jim O'Toole · 16-09-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cookee

See you at the boat show tomorrow Jim?

you coming to our do?

be good to meet , 430 on Whistling Dixie's stand...

jim

hunton69 · 16-09-2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim O'Toole

you coming to our do?

be good to meet , 430 on Whistling Dixie's stand...

jim

Don't get sucked in.

Mmmm unless sheeeeeee is good realllllly good

Money talks

BluFin · 17-09-2008, 05:27 PM

I know locators were a topic from 2008
Not bad for the money?? Dunno if they are any good or been seen before

like the 911 - call mum - check-in & track function options

http://www.findmespot.com/ExperiencingSPOT/OnWater.aspx

Cookee · 18-09-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim O'Toole

you coming to our do?

be good to meet , 430 on Whistling Dixie's stand...

jim

Nice meeting you Jim - the Champagne was lovely too! Thanks!

Jim O'Toole · 18-09-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookee

Nice meeting you Jim - the Champagne was lovely too! Thanks!

no problem , good to meet you, lets do that stuff re the mag

Jinm

cfun · 19-09-2008, 11:05 AM

I wonder if Fabio Buzzi had always intended putting the wing on Cssa as in 85 in it's first season, and racing as Nitro it had two giant air intakes each side that could have supported a wing but it didn't, perhaps at the speeds he was looking for he needed more stability as well as lift and so the wing was born by modifying the giant air intakes to fit the wing over, and I am sure the wing has been modified in angle slightly over the years ending up as it looks today and leading the boat to many championship wins and giving it the famous look

Fabio has made the most in advertising his recent victory's and who could blame him

http://fbdesign.it/Cowes-Torquay-Cowes%202008.php

Interesting Fabio states Venturers engines at only 700hp each, I thought originally this boat had engines around 850+hp each and a top speed around 105MPH, now I would assume low to mid 90's

Scand · 19-09-2008, 11:42 AM

Some good reading about the development of CESA 1882 here:

http://fbdesign.it/downloads/Progettare_per_Vincere.zip
http://fbdesign.it/downloads/Plannin...glish_Text.zip

cfun · 19-09-2008, 12:05 PM

Thanks Scand when I have a quite spell at work I will read it all ... looks very interesting although you did have me worried when I downloaded the first and it was all in Italian, I started to look for my phrase book

Mike Lloyd · 19-09-2008, 07:14 PM

Looks as though Cowes is sitting up and taking notice about the CTC. This can only be good for us for next year. A very good article on their web site plus they have added loads of pics!
http://www.iwight.com/home/news/2008/default.asp
ML.

cfun · 20-09-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scand

Some good reading about the development of CESA 1882 here:

http://fbdesign.it/downloads/Progettare_per_Vincere.zip
http://fbdesign.it/downloads/Plannin...glish_Text.zip

Thanks Scand that was a great read, the only down side I thought was that Fabio did not talk in any great detail about his 20's and 30's as by the time of the article in 86 Buzzi was 43ish, although there is some information on the FB website it's not very detailed. Also the article I thought started as if it was perhaps a continuation from perhaps his earlier years and if so it's a great pity the beginning was missing. Reading it took me back to those years there was something special about that period 86-88 and I did go to Cowes, Camden trophy or Needles trophy, and Guernsey I also went to the Keys many times although I don't think 88 was one of them

Scand · 22-09-2008, 09:10 AM

Glad you liked it.
It’s an extract from his book:
Progettare per Vincere
Author:Fabio Buzzi
Language: Italian
Format: Book (Illustrated), 366 pages
Publication Date: January 1994
ISBN-10: 8842517763
ISBN-13: 9788842517764

This book covers the period from his child hood to the early nineties.
I managed to get hold of a copy in Italian, and it a really good read.
If you are not too keen on reading in Italian, I have a English (text only) translation kicking around some where.

cfun · 26-09-2008, 11:07 AM

Hope you have brought your Euro lottery ticket ML

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/200...t-45dbed5.html

Just think what kind of events you could put on if you won the 100Mil or you'd be a 10th of a billionaire

cfun · 26-09-2008, 11:17 AM

Hi Scand is it poss you could put up on boatmad that's if you have it of course, FB's early years leading up to his inspirations for the design of CESA

Mike Lloyd · 26-09-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cfun

Hope you have brought your Euro lottery ticket ML

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/200...t-45dbed5.html

Just think what kind of events you could put on if you won the 100Mil or you'd be a 10th of a billionaire

If I had that sort of money I would be too busy enjoying life somewhere hot rather than staying here and organising powerboat races. Mind you, if we are day dreaming here, I would ensure I had the biggest and fastest endurance race boat in this country ready to take on all comers including Fabio!! Something like a 50ft Apache with triple 900hp supercharged engines running surface drives would do (there is one being built as we speak but its not for me unfortunately). But thats just day dreaming of course.

ML.

Jon Fuller · 28-01-2009, 07:57 AM

For those interested, here's the DGS narrated video from last years CTC.

http://media.boatmad.com/gallery/v/m...C2008.wmv.html

DAVE R · 28-01-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

For those interested, here's the DGS narrated video from last years CTC.

http://media.boatmad.com/gallery/v/m...C2008.wmv.html

Thanks. Some great footage and well worth watching