Venture Cup

[Carl]

well theres a surprise,not

[blimp]

I think it may be worth noting that we haven't, as yet, officially cancelled the Venture Cup. What has been announced is that the RYA were unable to approve the race and have handed back their element to the UIM. At this time it's not appropriate to comment any further for fear of jeopardising any work which is currently being done.

[andymac]

No matter the out come of this great event. The Venture cup team have my respect, for trying, against all odds, to get this extravaganser together. Would like to say that, if you so called race fanatics where a little less negative towards people trying to sort something out, then maybe it might of happened.

[hunton69]

Originally Posted by andymac

No matter the out come of this great event. The Venture cup team have my respect, for trying, against all odds, to get this extravaganser together. Would like to say that, if you so called race fanatics where a little less negative towards people trying to sort something out, then maybe it might of happened.

So you really think that negative comments on an open forum was the downfall of this event .

There is no such thing as bad publicity


What there is is no publicity

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by hunton69

So you really think that negative comments on an open forum was the downfall of this event .

There is no such thing as bad publicity


What there is is no publicity

I doubt the RYA were swayed by the comments on here!

[Adam]

Great shame - and doubt if there will be any winners from this - not the organsiers, RYA, competitors or the sport itself.

Fundamentally really shows that the sport needs some pretty big changes - but that is a whole bigger issue.

But maybe still possible that some type of event happens I guess........

[topgun]

Originally Posted by Adam

Great shame - and doubt if there will be any winners from this - not the organsiers, RYA, competitors or the sport itself.

Fundamentally really shows that the sport needs some pretty big changes - but that is a whole bigger issue.

But maybe still possible that some type of event happens I guess........

How about including Guernsey and Jersey then back to UK, not quite Monte but enough enthusiasts to help out here. Would be a great shame after all the efforts made to date by the organisers and the racers to not have any race.

[hunton69]

Originally Posted by topgun

How about including Guernsey and Jersey then back to UK, not quite Monte but enough enthusiasts to help out here. Would be a great shame after all the efforts made to date by the organisers and the racers to not have any race.

They done that last year.

How about Hamble to Cowes and back.

[Marinautic]

Originally Posted by hunton69

What there is is no publicity

[topgun]

Originally Posted by hunton69

They done that last year.

How about Hamble to Cowes and back.

I know they did this but my train of thought was if permission was given by the mighty RYA before there should be no reason to refuse it again!

[wickedtopspeed]

In my ignorance, was my thought about re-running Round Britain.
All the hard work was done for the 2008 race, so my logic says it should be much easier to re-run, but even with Neil M et al behind it they failed to get that re-run.

Originally Posted by topgun

I know they did this but my train of thought was if permission was given by the mighty RYA before there should be no reason to refuse it again!

[hunton69]

Originally Posted by topgun

I know they did this but my train of thought was if permission was given by the mighty RYA before there should be no reason to refuse it again!

That's like cancelling the le mans 24 and telling the teams to race around the indy circuit of Brands Hatch for an hour

[Marinautic]

Originally Posted by wickedtopspeed

In my ignorance, was my thought about re-running Round Britain.
All the hard work was done for the 2008 race, so my logic says it should be much easier to re-run, but even with Neil M et al behind it they failed to get that re-run.

http://www.mamarine.com/cowes_week_e...-Boat-Race.php


Reading that, it looks like they were trying to put something on that was going to be much more extravagant than the RB 2008, perhaps if they'd stuck to Mike's well proven formula, it might have happened!

[Cookee]

Having been told of the latest news of the Venture Cup my lovely wife had a few choice words to say:

Didn't RB12 get cancelled quite close to the start and didn't a bunch of people lose money on that? She then said didn't Mike Lloyd cancel Cowes Monaco after taking quite a bit of money (mine included)? Isn't the Venture Cup the same race a year later? Are people going to lose more money again? Her observation is that as a group powerboat racers are obviously a bunch of hopelessly optimistic gullible idiots being taken advantage of.

Personally I think that's a bit strong but there does seem to be a pattern forming here - I really hope Aidan gets his sh1t together and sorts something out because I like him and I know he's been working very hard ..... time will tell!

[hunton69]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Having been told of the latest news of the Venture Cup my lovely wife had a few choice words to say:

Didn't RB12 get cancelled quite close to the start and didn't a bunch of people lose money on that? She then said didn't Mike Lloyd cancel Cowes Monaco after taking quite a bit of money (mine included)? Isn't the Venture Cup the same race a year later? Are people going to lose more money again? Her observation is that as a group powerboat racers are obviously a bunch of hopelessly optimistic gullible idiots being taken advantage of.

Personally I think that's a bit strong but there does seem to be a pattern forming here - I really hope Aidan gets his sh1t together and sorts something out because I like him and I know he's been working very hard ..... time will tell!

At last someone in the cookee camp talks sense

[Mike Lloyd]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Having been told of the latest news of the Venture Cup my lovely wife had a few choice words to say:

Didn't RB12 get cancelled quite close to the start and didn't a bunch of people lose money on that? She then said didn't Mike Lloyd cancel Cowes Monaco after taking quite a bit of money (mine included)? Isn't the Venture Cup the same race a year later? Are people going to lose more money again? Her observation is that as a group powerboat racers are obviously a bunch of hopelessly optimistic gullible idiots being taken advantage of.

Personally I think that's a bit strong but there does seem to be a pattern forming here - I really hope Aidan gets his sh1t together and sorts something out because I like him and I know he's been working very hard ..... time will tell!

I take exception to that comment Cookee. Your wife needs to know the FULL facts and not just comments from you. Cowes to Monte-Carlo was organised by MPA Powerboats Events Ltd, a limited company with three Directors submitting full audited accounts each year to Companies House showing ALL expenditures and monies spent, something that you can check out quite easily.

The final three Directors included myself, Alan Goodwin and Aidan Foley. Alan & Aidan - who were shareholders of MPA - went on to try to organise the London to Monte-Carlo - with others after I resigned my Directorship of MPA Powerboat Events Ltd. I had personally spent over 6,000hrs over two years - UNPAID - and a considerable amount of my own money - again - to try to make that race happen only to finally to run into a brick wall with only a few teams wanting to take part instead of the original 48. However, that wasn't the only reason for cancelling the race but that is another story. So be careful about throwing careless words around, it's not appreciated.
ML.
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[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Mike Lloyd

I take exception to that comment Cookee. Your wife needs to know the FULL facts and not just comments from you. Cowes to Monte-Carlo was organised by MPA Powerboats Events Ltd, a limited company with three Directors submitting full audited accounts each year to Companies House showing ALL expenditures and monies spent, something that you can check out quite easily.

The final three Directors included myself, Alan Goodwin and Aidan Foley. Alan & Aidan - who were shareholders of MPA - went on to try to organise the London to Monte-Carlo - with others after I resigned my Directorship of MPA Powerboat Events Ltd. I had personally spent over 6,000hrs over two years - UNPAID - and a considerable amount of my own money - again - to try to make that race happen only to finally to run into a brick wall with only a few teams wanting to take part instead of the original 48. However, that wasn't the only reason for cancelling the race but that is another story. So be careful about throwing careless words around, it's not appreciated.
ML.
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Sorry should have said origianl Cowes Monaco committee/organisers - I was only trying to separate you from the current race.

[hunton69]

Originally Posted by Mike Lloyd

I take exception to that comment Cookee. Your wife needs to know the FULL facts and not just comments from you. Cowes to Monte-Carlo was organised by MPA Powerboats Events Ltd, a limited company with three Directors submitting full audited accounts each year to Companies House showing ALL expenditures and monies spent, something that you can check out quite easily.

The final three Directors included myself, Alan Goodwin and Aidan Foley. Alan & Aidan - who were shareholders of MPA - went on to try to organise the London to Monte-Carlo - with others after I resigned my Directorship of MPA Powerboat Events Ltd. I had personally spent over 6,000hrs over two years - UNPAID - and a considerable amount of my own money - again - to try to make that race happen only to finally to run into a brick wall with only a few teams wanting to take part instead of the original 48. However, that wasn't the only reason for cancelling the race but that is another story. So be careful about throwing careless words around, it's not appreciated.
ML.
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Why throw your toys out the pram. Can't people make comments if you read the post it was cookee's wife's opinion.

So how many teams are out of pocket not just there entry fee but build costs.

[Red-Leader]

Hunton maybe that question should be aimed if the race does not go ahead !
Untill we are notified otherwise I take it that it is in fact happening.

[hunton69]

Originally Posted by Red-Leader

Hunton maybe that question should be aimed if the race does not go ahead !
Untill we are notified otherwise I take it that it is in fact happening.

I hope it does but I wont hold my breath

Mike 6,000 hours over 2 years is a 62.5 hour week that's if you took 4 weeks holiday.
No comments please about the holidays